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OP, ENjoy Seattle and Washington until it turns into a hellhole like California, where you came from. Californians bring their politics with them and end up having to fix our "backward" politics, so our state can become as messed up as where they came from.
Those "conservative" county dwellers are why Seattle and Washington has been a livable state. I'm not saying they are always the best people, but they have helped offset the liberal radicalism that sought to devour Seattle's corporate and business infrastructure. Give it 10 years and bring more of those "liberal" California politics to the state and we will become a lovely place like the beautiful city (San Fran) and state (California) you came from.
Sorry, not to get off subject.. I'm happy you like Seattle. Yeah, so cheap to live Ahh, I guess considering half of San Francisco is moving here, this is a very cheap city to you! I'm sure when the Californians vote in a state income tax and to increase all our other taxes across the board, things will even get more affordable. Maybe we can chase out all our local businesses who provided us with jobs, like in my home town of Portland. Yeah, after all "rich business owners" are EVIL.
Not to sound bitter, but I think Seattle and to a degree, the state of Washington, are going down the tubes as the infrastructure of the Pacific Northwest and its cities cannot handle the giant influx of people moving here. Also, a lot of the people gravitating towards Seattle and Portland are very liberal/socialist-minded Californians, East Coast/Chicago-type people. They move here and they immediately demand rent control, wage control, gun bans, free citizenship to all, wealth redistribution , tax increases, toll roads, etc. Basically, they just cannot understand why the politicians don't act as they did back home, since they voted for them. Yet, they cannot understand why this area is so much nicer, cleaner, affordable, friendly, less crime-ridden ,etc than back home. It must be magic!
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Oh yeah, side note, have you ever bothered venturing out of Capitol Hill? I am amazed at how many of these big city transplants move to The Hill/Downtown and then never leave the area and see the rest of the city, much less the metro or even the state. A good amount of people who live downtown and like to dictate the way things should be in Washington don't hardly know a damn thing about Washington or the Northwest.
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OP, ENjoy Seattle and Washington until it turns into a hellhole like California, where you came from. Californians bring their politics with them and end up having to fix our "backward" politics, so our state can become as messed up as where everyone came from.
Those "conservative" county dwellers are why Seattle and Washington has been a livable state. I'm not saying they are always the best people, but they have helped offset the liberal radicalism that sought to devour Seattle's corporate and business infrastructure. Give it 10 years and bring more of those "liberal" California politics to the state and we will become a lovely place like the beautiful city (San Fran) and state (California) you came from.
Sorry, not to get off subject.. I'm happy you like Seattle. Yeah, so cheap to live Ahh, I guess considering half of San Francisco is moving here, this is a very cheap city to you! I'm sure when the Californians vote in a state income tax and to increase all our other taxes across the board, things will even get more affordable.
Not to sound bitter, but I think Seattle and to a degree, the state of Washington, are going down the tubes as the infrastructure of the Pacific Northwest and its cities cannot handle the giant influx of people moving here. Also, a lot of the people gravitating towards Seattle and Portland are very liberal/socialist-minded Californians, East Coast/Chicago-type people. They move here and they immediately demand , rent control, wage control, gun bans, free citizenship to all, wealth redistribution , tax increases, toll roads, etc. Basically, they just cannot understand why the politicians don't act as they did back home, since they voted for them. Yet, they cannot understand why this area is so much nicer, cleaner, affordable, friendly, less crime-ridden ,etc than back home. It must be magic!
Rotse, there are plenty of conservative areas in Washington for you to move to - you should move to them. Companies choose Seattle knowing it's liberal. Since you own your own company, you could move anywhere, whether it's the reddest part of Washington or back home to Oregon. No one is making you stay here.
Rotse, there are plenty of conservative areas in Washington for you to move to - you should move to them. Companies choose Seattle knowing it's blue and liberal. Since you own your own company, you could move anywhere, whether it's the reddest part of Washington or back home to Oregon. No one is making you stay here.
I live in East King County (not Seattle), it's quite conservative here.. I cannot live anywhere and you know don't know all the details of my business.. And, wherever I move in Washington, I will still be affected by the politics in Washington's largest city, so you are simply being naive by saying what happens in Seattle doesn't affect me and the rest of Washingtonian people.
I live in East King County (not Seattle), it's quite conservative here.. I cannot live anywhere and you know don't know all the details of my business.. And, wherever I move in Washington, I will still be affected by the politics in Washington's largest city, so you are simply being naive by saying what happens in Seattle doesn't affect me and the rest of Washingtonian people.
I've been here longer than you have and no, East King County (not Seattle) is not "quite conservative". It might be slightly less liberal than Seattle but it is still Democratic.
Funny, Democratic King County just keeps growing and growing, but the conservative counties don't so much. You would think, based on your logic, that the opposite would be true.
The best way to not be affected by the politics of Washington is to not live in Washington. Idaho is waiting for you.
I've been here longer than you have and no, East King County (not Seattle) is not "quite conservative". It might be slightly less liberal than Seattle but it is still Democratic.
Funny, Democratic King County just keeps growing and growing, but the conservative counties don't so much. You would think, based on your logic, that the opposite would be true.
The best way to not be affected by the politics of Washington is to not live in Washington. Idaho is waiting for you.
I've been here longer than you have and no, East King County (not Seattle) is not "quite conservative". It might be slightly less liberal than Seattle but it is still Democratic.
Funny, Democratic King County just keeps growing and growing, but the conservative counties don't so much. You would think, based on your logic, that the opposite would be true.
The best way to not be affected by the politics of Washington is to not live in Washington. Idaho is waiting for you.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.. Come out to East King County, where I live, with your Obama and Kshama Sawant stickers and see the reception.. When ,I say East King County, I am not referring to Bellevue, which is actually probably 60/40 liberal/conservative, thanks to the overwhelmingly liberal Asian population. Although, this could be changing slowly, as many are religious and are successful in business and feeling more alienated by anti-religious/anti-business liberal parties the minority groups once put their trust in.
Please look at your map and see exactly where "East" King County is. I promise you, this area is one of the most conservative places in the country and is a world apart from the King County you know. Many people do not even realize how HUGE King County actually is. Where I live almost everyone owns a gun, goes to church and there is a lot of farmers, loggers, blue collar types here. Where I live the sound of gun shots are echoing in the horizon, with a shooting range and hunting areas nearby. Ah, the sound of freedom As a matter of fact, the large Christian population out here I thought was a little bit of a concern for a Jewish guy like me. BUt, the people seem very friendly and accepting and not shoving their religion down my throat. That is one of the things I like about living in the Northwest, Live and Let Live. Except in Seattle, where it is Our Way or the Highway.
Slightly less liberal than Seattle? Hahahahah. Even, liberal Bellingham is much less liberal than Seattle. East King County, which if you look at a map is East of Redmond and beyond, is actually much more conservative than many places even in Texas. I've lived in Idaho and this area is every bit as conservative as rural Ada county where I lived.
Is King County democrat?? Gee, how can that be, does it have something to do with the fact that about 80% of King County's population is concentrated within two or three cities??? And, perhaps, the fact that 50% of that population are all transplants hailing from Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York , Chicago etc. No, that must not have anything to do with it.
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Once Seattle's economy collapses due to its insane liberal politics and its inability to manage its infrastructure due to overwhelming population growth, you may suddenly see a reverse trend in Seattle's growth. Those, once, rural undesirable counties may suddenly become much more desirable. I've always thought Tacoma, Spokane and Bellingham had loads of potential, but right now everyone is drinking the Seattle Kool-Aid. The deranged and lunatic socialist Seattle government is not going to coincide well with the booming corporate backbone that has spawned Seattle's massive growth and turned Seattle into the powerhouse it is. Really, the majority of Seattle's population of loonie lefties, baristas with PhDs, anarchists, hipsters working at record or cupcake shops, etc are not the ones who helped Seattle become an immaculate and innovative business and technology center. And, ironically, these same people are the ones try to inhibit these businesses from succeeding. Once the city doubles in size and the jobs are cut in half, yet living costs are doubled, the city's demographics will change drastically. Maybe, they will raise the minimum wage to $100/hr, but there will be no one to provide any jobs.
How many more of these "TAX THE RICH" bumper stickers do I have to see in Seattle, before I get the point that Seattle is actually at war with the people who have brought all the capital to this city. Oh yeah, let me translate the meaning of these bumper stickers: RICH = Anybody who actually works for a living. One thing I find ironic about Seattle is that even the homeless people here have smartphones. I will be walking by them on the sidewalk and seeing them on the freeway off ramps , browsing the web on their phones. What I like to know is first, who is paying for their phones? And, second, who is paying for their data plans? I know it's not fair that evil rich working people can own smartphones and data plans and not the poor. We need to redistribute the wealth so everyone can have smartphones and free data plans! Ah, Seattle politics at their finest!
Remember, Detroit, at one time, was the most thriving and immculate city in the USA.. Now , it is the armpit of America. I hate to think Seattle will self-destruct due to the city becoming unlivable and unmanageable.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.. Come out to East King County, where I live, with your Obama and Kshama Sawant stickers and see the reception.. When ,I say East King County, I am not referring to Bellevue, which is actually probably 60/40 liberal/conservative, thanks to the overwhelmingly liberal Asian population. Although, this could be changing slowly, as many are religious and are successful in business and feeling more alienated by anti-religious/anti-business liberal parties the minority groups once put their trust in.
Please look at your map and see exactly where "East" King County is. I promise you, this area is one of the most conservative places in the country and is a world apart from the King County you know. Many people do not even realize how HUGE King County actually is. Where I live almost everyone owns a gun, goes to church and there is a lot of farmers, loggers, blue collar types here. Where I live the sound of gun shots are echoing in the horizon, with a shooting range and hunting areas nearby. Ah, the sound of freedom As a matter of fact, the large Christian population out here I thought was a little bit of a concern for a Jewish guy like me. BUt, the people seem very friendly and accepting and not shoving their religion down my throat. That is one of the things I like about living in the Northwest, Live and Let Live. Except in Seattle, where it is Our Way or the Highway.
Slightly less liberal than Seattle? Hahahahah. Even, liberal Bellingham is much less liberal than Seattle. East King County, which if you look at a map is East of Redmond and beyond, is actually much more conservative than many places even in Texas. I've lived in Idaho and this area is every bit as conservative as rural Ada county where I lived.
Is King County democrat?? Gee, how can that be, does it have something to do with the fact that about 80% of King County's population is concentrated within two or three cities??? And, perhaps, the fact that 50% of that population are all transplants hailing from Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York , Chicago etc. No, that must not have anything to do with it.
I know you want to believe this - that you need to believe this - but at some point, you're going to have to admit it's not true. Farmers? Loggers? Where everyone holsters a gun and goes to church three times a week? Where echoes of gun shots ring throughout the horizon? How many people? Four? Now I see why that bar stopped serving.
You didn't answer my question. If these conservative areas are so appealing to business, why are the businesses all in the the most liberal parts of King County?
You can continue to complain about the politics here every single day and I'm sure you will, but if you have found a cave that suits your politics, I'm very happy for you. The businesses keep moving to the liberal portion of King County - the bluest part of it. Eastern Washington, Eastern King County, Idaho, etc. don't seem to be appealing to them.
And don't forget, you've already told us many times you are a transplant.
How many more of these "TAX THE RICH" bumper stickers do I have to see in Seattle,
Washington has the most friendly state tax policy of all fifty states for rich people. I think this place has a long way before it resembles California in any material way for tax policy.
I know you want to believe this - that you need to believe this - but at some point, you're going to have to admit it's not true. Farmers? Loggers? Where everyone holsters a gun and goes to church three times a week? Where echoes of gun shots ring throughout the horizon? How many people? Four? Now I see why that bar stopped serving.
You didn't answer my question. If these conservative areas are so appealing to business, why are the businesses all in the the most liberal parts of King County?
You can complain about the politics here every single day and I'm sure you will, but if you have found a cave that suits your politics, I'm very happy for you. The businesses keep moving to the liberal portion of King County - the bluest part of it. Eastern Washington, Eastern King County, Idaho, etc. don't seem to be appealing to them.
And don't forget, you've already told us many times you are a transplant.
Why do businesses not move to East King County? Well, considering one of the largest corporation in the world is on the border of East King County and provides jobs to many East King County residents, I cannot say you are 100% correct. But, obviously East King County is much more rural and suburban and doesn't have any commercial centers. This can also change. Redmond use to be a farm town and was not much different than places like Monroe, but now it is one of the major technology centers of the country.
Idaho's economy is actually booming.. I'm not sure what you are talking about. As a matter of fact, the reddest parts of our country are having some of the largest amount of economic growth and the bluest and most liberal parts of our country are rusting, crime-ridden, have high unemployment rates and very poor job markets and economies. There is a lot more people moving from liberal New Jersey, New York, Illinois, etc to cities like Nashville, Houston, Charlotte than the other way around. A good number of the most booming economies are now in the South, not in the North and more liberal enclaves of the country.
Maybe, Seattle is booming, because it is a city in a mostly business friendly red-state? Seattle has always been the city center of the state, so of course businesses will center their operations there. However, once you turn Washington into a blue state, I wonder what will be the outcome of the economy? Remember, Washington's politics affect Seattle and Seattle's politics affect Washington. Yes, sadly, Seattle is bringing in large amount of immigrants from the most liberal enclaves of the country looking to escape their "liberal hells". This, sadly, will affect the entire state of Washington and change the laws of the entire state. Although, there is still some safety provided that demographically, Washington is quite red.
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Ahh, I guess considering half of San Francisco is moving here, this is a very cheap city to you! I'm sure when the Californians vote in a state income tax and to increase all our other taxes across the board, things will even get more affordable. Maybe we can chase out all our local businesses who provided us with jobs, like in my home town of Portland. Yeah, after all "rich business owners" are EVIL. 
I cannot live anywhere and you know don't know all the details of my business.. And, wherever I move in Washington, I will still be affected by the politics in Washington's largest city, so you are simply being naive by saying what happens in Seattle doesn't affect me and the rest of Washingtonian people.
As a matter of fact, the large Christian population out here I thought was a little bit of a concern for a Jewish guy like me. BUt, the people seem very friendly and accepting and not shoving their religion down my throat. That is one of the things I like about living in the Northwest, Live and Let Live. Except in Seattle, where it is Our Way or the Highway.
