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Old 09-16-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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SCG, If you have a hypo attack, do you find if you rest for 10 to 20 minutes that you recover? I have never seen a doctor on tis, but I suspect I am hypo too. I get the shakes bad , dizzy and etc when I run out of food engery, but if I stop, or am stopped, and wait it out I can go again, with no foods intake.

If there is foods available I will eat, but when there are none I will rest/drop, and can go again..... so far.

This was posted about 9/10/11
Thief in Ossipee

Hi folks,

An elderly Tamworth woman was robbed outside of Hannaford last Saturday. She
was approached by a woman about 5'5" with brown hair. The woman offered to help
the victim with getting her bags to the car. At first the victim refused the
assistance but the thief assured her that it would not be a problem and she'd
love to help. She walked quickly away with the victims cart which also held her
pocketbook. The next time the victim went to pull out her money, she found the
wallet empty of all cash and coins. The credit cards were there.

I contacted Hannaford to report this incident and was told that a similar thing
had happened at the Dollar Store recently. Reports were also made to the
Ossipee and Tamworth Police Departments.

It's a shame that their are people preying on the elderly and/or handicapped but
we all need to keep our eyes and ears open.

(signed with a real name off the board.)

I think things like this will become more typical.

That store is at a major intersection, and shopping there Friday-Sunday, sometimes Monday is Hell, for the intence crowds of people from away.

Always the weak and eldery are the first to be picked on.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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I wish I had a little of that insulin resistance!!! LOL I'm hyPOglycemic, which means if I have no sugar or at least carbs, I start to do silly things like fall down... but it's ok, I seriously doubt I'll live beyond 85 anyway... dodged THAT bullet!

I think that socio-economic areas DO make a difference in catastrophes and natural disasters. I have watched people sitting waiting for 'help' who will wait there until they die, while no help comes. I have seen people shrieking that they need help now Now NOW, grabbing onto potential saviors, sometimes even beating them up in their frenzy. It was noted that sometimes fishermen's bodies, caught out in rough seas and capsized, would often come to shore with hobnail imprints in their shoulders, their neighbors, friends, and family standing on their shoulders to get one last gulp of air... we all know the history of the Donner Pass and some lesser-famous instances of people who will do ANYthing to survive.

People accustomed to doing for themselves will continue to do for themselves. People accustomed to either taking what they want or endlessly getting help from others will continue that behavior as well. There will be pckets of violence as well as pockets of co-operation, all across the country and all around the world, as different people, educated to do different things, will respond in the ways they are 'trained' by either their parents, their schools, their governments, or their communities.

I wouldn't dream of rioting - but I sure as heck will shoot to kill a rioter on my property without a second thought. I wouldn't dream of denying my neighbors help - but then again, we all help each other, and no one only takes - for long - around here. I wouldn't refuse someone I know will help me in the long run, reciprocally - but the first person who shows up expecting to be taken care of will either be escorted off the property or disappear.

Honestly, I don't really care if the rich have already built themselves underground cities replete with underground rail - more power to them. When they get hungry again, they'll need me. After the S hits the fan, there will come a winnowing - and I plan on not being winnowed. If it happens, well, shoot, so be it - but I'm not going down and out without a good fight. As my son says, "Your position in Valhalla is determined by how many enemies you take with you"...
I wish I could remember the study, it showed different breeds of dogs and how they reacted to being stuck in a maze. The findings largely came doen to if you know the Breed you likely Know the Dog. Some just wait and whine, others will use logic, reason, and will try and fight or work thier way out.

One of the things Ferfal in his Surviving in Argentina writes about is anyone showing signs of weakness would be attacked and robbed. Even wearing glasses or just thought they would not be able or willing to fight. A 96 year old women was beaten to death in our area not long ago. Certainly done by "people who came to do to work Americans wont do" Since it was not and UNPC homicide the cops did not put much in the way of resources into finding the creep(s)
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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SCG, If you have a hypo attack, do you find if you rest for 10 to 20 minutes that you recover? I have never seen a doctor on tis, but I suspect I am hypo too. I get the shakes bad , dizzy and etc when I run out of food engery, but if I stop, or am stopped, and wait it out I can go again, with no foods intake.
No, Mac; if I sit down to rest at those times, I will fall asleep, and sleep soundly for at least an hour, sometimes two or four, and then wake up very nauseated and cannot eat. Then I have to hyperhydrate with sugary drinks to get to where I can eat without getting sick. Usually it's just better to immediately grab a handful of nuts or a piece of bread with honey or peanut butter on it. If I do that, I am ok after about 10 minutes.

Speaking from an EMT's viewpoint, your problem sounds circulatory/respiratory to me... i.e., you're using a lot of energy and build up a lot of 'waste' (things like carbon dioxide and other chemicals) at the cellular level, which can cause you to get dizzy, weak, etc. When you sit down and relax, your breathing puts oxygen back into the cells, and you start to 'blow off' those waste chemicals, which gives you back your strength. It happens to people who go to gyms and work out sometimes too... they are concentrating on their workout and aren't breathing deep enough or fast enough to 'bring in the good air, blow off the bad', and their cells get overloaded because they can't get rid of the waste quickly enough. I'm no doctor, and I'd want to do a 'stress test' on you if I was, but that's just my obs from working around folks.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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hopefully when tshtf, it's a solid turd that just gets cut in half by the fan blades and falls to the ground.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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No, Mac; if I sit down to rest at those times, I will fall asleep, and sleep soundly for at least an hour, sometimes two or four, and then wake up very nauseated and cannot eat. Then I have to hyperhydrate with sugary drinks to get to where I can eat without getting sick. Usually it's just better to immediately grab a handful of nuts or a piece of bread with honey or peanut butter on it. If I do that, I am ok after about 10 minutes.

Speaking from an EMT's viewpoint, your problem sounds circulatory/respiratory to me... i.e., you're using a lot of energy and build up a lot of 'waste' (things like carbon dioxide and other chemicals) at the cellular level, which can cause you to get dizzy, weak, etc. When you sit down and relax, your breathing puts oxygen back into the cells, and you start to 'blow off' those waste chemicals, which gives you back your strength. It happens to people who go to gyms and work out sometimes too... they are concentrating on their workout and aren't breathing deep enough or fast enough to 'bring in the good air, blow off the bad', and their cells get overloaded because they can't get rid of the waste quickly enough. I'm no doctor, and I'd want to do a 'stress test' on you if I was, but that's just my obs from working around folks.

Thanks.... I have no real idea if I am a hypo or not. but in hard labor, like winter hiking I run straight out of steam, and must stop and re-fuel, or wait it out. Usually it's a combination of waiting, atleast untill I have motor function to light a stove and cook up some grub.

There are other problems I have with and from a bad back with some nerve damage which affects my legs from the knee down. I call it 'Aliens' because it's like there are creatures under my skin, that move, and move more when I am in rest. This is going on 3 decades now, but in the first it was a non-issue, with just seeing the movements. In the last 2 decades there is slight pain from cramping, and a tired feeling in general in my legs.

I am on the use it or loose it program, so stopping all this working out is not anything I have a plan to do anytime. If I stop I know I will seize up and loose a lot of ground I have worked at keeping to remain mobile.

I have tried potasium pills, and eatten high potasium foods like bananna's to no avail.

I do this partial quote of yours too. """hyperhydrate with sugary drinks to get to where I can eat without getting sick. Usually it's just better to immediately grab a handful of nuts or a piece of bread with honey or peanut butter on it. If I do that, I am ok after about 10 minutes. """ When possible. The result is similar.

I am guessing that this has been a symtom for so long that I have no choice but to live with it, but I do my best to deny it.

It's a good thing peanut M&M's and Oj are a good match huh?
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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According to this guy, and I do think he knows what he's talking about, the stock market will crash. He says that people will wake up one day soon, and find that their savings have been wiped out.
So we pull our savings out of the bank, and do what? If we already have gold n silver, is it a good idea to just sit on cash? A few thousand?


BBC Speechless As Trader Tells Truth: "The Collapse Is Coming...And Goldman Rules The World" - YouTube
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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A lot of people don't understand all this financial stuff, and I don't blame them, as they won't teach it in schools or anywhere else. What we are about to smack into is not a recession, not a depression, but a currency collapse. The Federal Reserve Note is 98 years old now, and the only reason it has lasted this long is that it's the world's reserve currency. Just have a look at the Euro, a disaster if ever there was one, and it won't last either. Just another example of an unbacked paper fiat currency. Those are fine as long as people have confidence in them. But confidence has been eroding rather badly the last couple of years.

When a currency collapses, it loses purchasing power. Nobody wants to accept it as it's seen as worthless (which it is). The "dollar" (Federal Reserve Note) has no backing, and no value. It works fine as a medium of exchange, but NOT as a store of value (since it has none). The problem is when people start to SAVE and INVEST with these paper things. They are literally saving and investing "nothing". It sounds stupid -- even to me -- because we are not used to thinking this way. To us, this stuff is "money", so what could be wrong with saving in it?

A lot, it turns out. The biggest scam ever perpetrated on the American people was giving them tax breaks to encourage them to save for retirement in "dollars". They would have been better off using after-tax "money" to buy gold and silver, and just sock it away. The stock market, bonds, mutual funds, etc are all "paper" and bought with "paper". All "gains" from such investments are nominal only, not real, and all LOSSES are nominal only, not real. It's like playing with Monopoly money; who cares how big a stash of it you have? Got a match???

When it finally dawns on enough people what is going on here, all Hail will break loose. Suddenly (and soon, too) they will all realize what I've just said above. They will freak out. Many will commit suicide. Please don't do this -- paper is not worth it. We will all be poor in "dollars". Those who figured they had hundreds of thousands in savings or investments, especially for retirement, will be wiped out. Yes, this has happened before -- look up Argentina in 2001.

Some likely scenarios include bank holidays (banks are closed, ATMs won't work, ditto for debt or credit cards, and nobody will take checks), a currency devaluation of anywhere from 40 to 75%, and strict currency controls after the banks re-open (e.g. you may be allowed to withdraw only $300 a month or some such ridiculous amount). There will be civil unrest, much more unemployment than now, and crime will skyrocket. People will spend all waking hours just trying to find something to eat.

If you think I'm crazy (sometimes I wonder myself), just look at history. This has happened dozens (hundreds?) of times, somewhere, in just the past century. Pick a continent, any continent; pick a decade, any decade; then google it till you hit pay dirt. It won't take long. Or just look up "currency collapse". I can think of no other issue that will reward you than to concentrate on just this subject, and soon. Not the World Series, not football, not Dancing With The Stars, not even planning out next years' garden. Watch the money, follow the money. Your future depends on it.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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Nah, I don't think you're crazy.
I'm kinda funny - I bought THINGS. Things that help me build and create other things. Things that breed and make more little things. Tiny things that grow other things, from which I get not only food but more tiny things.

I drive DH crazy this time of year; I'm harvesting and canning and dehydrating like a fiend posessed - and everywhere he looks, I've got seeds laid out and drying from whatever I'm harvesting. Every paper towel covered in drying seeds is four or five more packets I won't have to try to buy when there are none to buy, and nothing to buy them with. Every sad-and-dirty-looking, eye-covered little potato drying is four more potato starts I won't have to buy.

While gold and silver are pretty cool, those who can make things and 'create' food when no one else can, will be able to trade for gold and silver, or barter with others who have collected other things. And if there's no one with gold or silver, I'll still eat. Like I told my kids - I moved to where the food is. Right now I've got a hog at the processors, where hams, bacon, roasts, and sausage all cost me @ .99 cents a lb. (they give me the backfat for free, for my own lard). I'm arranging to have last year's steer taken down to them, too - again, @ .99 a lb. The chickens are about ready to butcher from this summer's eggs - and we're still getting eggs. With those and this year's wild turkey and deer, we'll eat until next fall, and maybe trade if we need to. (No, I don't have to pay a processor - but I still work and DH can't do it all.) This year's steer and heifer are for next year, and the bull has bred last year's heifer along with our two momcows... so next spring we'll have more future beef and momcows being born. This is ongoing sustainability, not survivalism.
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:05 AM
 
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Nah, I don't think you're crazy.
I'm kinda funny - I bought THINGS. Things that help me build and create other things. Things that breed and make more little things. Tiny things that grow other things, from which I get not only food but more tiny things.

I drive DH crazy this time of year; I'm harvesting and canning and dehydrating like a fiend posessed - and everywhere he looks, I've got seeds laid out and drying from whatever I'm harvesting. Every paper towel covered in drying seeds is four or five more packets I won't have to try to buy when there are none to buy, and nothing to buy them with. Every sad-and-dirty-looking, eye-covered little potato drying is four more potato starts I won't have to buy.

While gold and silver are pretty cool, those who can make things and 'create' food when no one else can, will be able to trade for gold and silver, or barter with others who have collected other things. And if there's no one with gold or silver, I'll still eat. Like I told my kids - I moved to where the food is. Right now I've got a hog at the processors, where hams, bacon, roasts, and sausage all cost me @ .99 cents a lb. (they give me the backfat for free, for my own lard). I'm arranging to have last year's steer taken down to them, too - again, @ .99 a lb. The chickens are about ready to butcher from this summer's eggs - and we're still getting eggs. With those and this year's wild turkey and deer, we'll eat until next fall, and maybe trade if we need to. (No, I don't have to pay a processor - but I still work and DH can't do it all.) This year's steer and heifer are for next year, and the bull has bred last year's heifer along with our two momcows... so next spring we'll have more future beef and momcows being born. This is ongoing sustainability, not survivalism.
I assume that means your freezer if full - do you have any concerns about a power outage?
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:13 AM
 
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A lot of people don't understand all this financial stuff, and I don't blame them, as they won't teach it in schools or anywhere else. What we are about to smack into is not a recession, not a depression, but a currency collapse. The Federal Reserve Note is 98 years old now, and the only reason it has lasted this long is that it's the world's reserve currency. Just have a look at the Euro, a disaster if ever there was one, and it won't last either. Just another example of an unbacked paper fiat currency. Those are fine as long as people have confidence in them. But confidence has been eroding rather badly the last couple of years.

When a currency collapses, it loses purchasing power. Nobody wants to accept it as it's seen as worthless (which it is). The "dollar" (Federal Reserve Note) has no backing, and no value. It works fine as a medium of exchange, but NOT as a store of value (since it has none). The problem is when people start to SAVE and INVEST with these paper things. They are literally saving and investing "nothing". It sounds stupid -- even to me -- because we are not used to thinking this way. To us, this stuff is "money", so what could be wrong with saving in it?

A lot, it turns out. The biggest scam ever perpetrated on the American people was giving them tax breaks to encourage them to save for retirement in "dollars". They would have been better off using after-tax "money" to buy gold and silver, and just sock it away. The stock market, bonds, mutual funds, etc are all "paper" and bought with "paper". All "gains" from such investments are nominal only, not real, and all LOSSES are nominal only, not real. It's like playing with Monopoly money; who cares how big a stash of it you have? Got a match???

When it finally dawns on enough people what is going on here, all Hail will break loose. Suddenly (and soon, too) they will all realize what I've just said above. They will freak out. Many will commit suicide. Please don't do this -- paper is not worth it. We will all be poor in "dollars". Those who figured they had hundreds of thousands in savings or investments, especially for retirement, will be wiped out. Yes, this has happened before -- look up Argentina in 2001.

Some likely scenarios include bank holidays (banks are closed, ATMs won't work, ditto for debt or credit cards, and nobody will take checks), a currency devaluation of anywhere from 40 to 75%, and strict currency controls after the banks re-open (e.g. you may be allowed to withdraw only $300 a month or some such ridiculous amount). There will be civil unrest, much more unemployment than now, and crime will skyrocket. People will spend all waking hours just trying to find something to eat.

If you think I'm crazy (sometimes I wonder myself), just look at history. This has happened dozens (hundreds?) of times, somewhere, in just the past century. Pick a continent, any continent; pick a decade, any decade; then google it till you hit pay dirt. It won't take long. Or just look up "currency collapse". I can think of no other issue that will reward you than to concentrate on just this subject, and soon. Not the World Series, not football, not Dancing With The Stars, not even planning out next years' garden. Watch the money, follow the money. Your future depends on it.
Frightening post, but you give me some direction to plan for. As granny said, better to invest in things such as food, guns, security. Any idea how long we have - a year or two? What about the idea that the world revovles around the dollar, so their economies would collapse before ours? In other words, wouldn't we be the last to go down? I'm on a well, should I still stock water?
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