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Old 11-23-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Yes we do live in trying times and I've never seen the level of destruction by gun violence committed by our youth growing up. School was always a safe place, so was walking back and forth to school. I don't know how that switch flipped and what has created this violent streak.

I was talking to my friends son about this as we drove him back from college and his response was interesting. He said that it's because they think they're entitled and want everything handed to them. Now they're afraid that it's all going to be taken away and the minorities blame white people for it. Interesting, but it doesn't explain the gun violence against those of the same minority group. (?)

There was a fatal bus accident recently in which a young man was driving too fast and rolled the bus killing several children. The mother of the bus driver responded with I'm sorry but it was Gods will that my piece of crap son killed your children. REALLY(?)

There seems to be a total lack of accountability in society today with the it's all about me mentality and it's everybody else but me mentality. I doubt the schools have much to do with this mentality. It's taught from a young age by ignorant people raising ignorant people, and so the cycle continues.

Do I want to bug out into an underground bunker, raise my own food, and stock pile ammo? Nah. I live in Mayberry with educated people that actually care about their neighbors. It's easy enough to get discouraged by what's going on in the world, but nothing is all good and nothing is all bad. There will always be rough patches. It's how you handle them that's important.
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Old 11-23-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Sounds like you haven't set foot on a campus since the 70s, or at least for 20 years. Although the last 5-6 are more telling.

Kids are not studying Marxist theory the way you think they are. They are studying a branch of Marxism (some of which came from the Frankfurt School), as taught through literature, history and other social sciences. Nor is right, the teaching is anti-American.

They don't use the term Marxism (most couldn't tell you who Marx was). I don't think any of them describe themselves as Marxist. They use terms like progressive, social liberal, etc. Instructors are not allowed to deviate. Kids are not allowed to explore outside that box or to question it without repercussions.

You have a lot of catching up to do. Here is a 1989 article from a liberal-approved source, NYT, that helps to explain the beginnings of this branch of Marxism at universities.

EDUCATION - The Mainstreaming of Marxism in U.S. Colleges - NYTimes.com


I will leave it up to interested individuals to do their own research on how it has evolved into where universities are today.

You were wise to use the qualifier "sounds like."

As a matter of fact, I was in a book group with the professors at Athens State University until a couple of years ago. The most liberal prof there was one who had worked with Medgar Evers in the 1960s, pushing for integration. He retired. The book that brought the president of the university out to participate in the discussions was "Left Behind." Painting all universities with the same brush is stereotyping, just as much as any other stereotyping. Anyone at UAT being taught a form of Marxism instead of hard subjects or football would be an outsider, to say the least.

If you want to state that Minnesota has some strong liberal bias, or that California does, I'll agree. However, the social pressures within even the groups there is less Marx related than a push to flatten the playing field for women and minorities. I also note that an article from '89 is well over twenty years old and not a particularly good cite. The changes on campuses in response to the Arab Spring, and then to its aftermath, and to Putin and his changes to Russia all happened well after your cite, as indeed did most of the internet.
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Old 11-23-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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I would consider "safe rooms" at colleges to be a liberal idea.
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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The problem is, most of those who believe in self reliance are too busy creating a life for themselves and their families that they don't have time to protest or run for political office, so the cancer of "progressivism" eats away at the soul of the country unabated.
Big agree on this!


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Old 11-23-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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I feel even more vulnerable right now than I did before the election. I don't live in total fear but I am far from complacent. My eyes and ears are always to the ground. But, I am not getting any younger and I am a white female alone, so your advice Nor'eastah is right on the money for me - get out of Dodge. Working on it .. doing my best. I could survive a long power outage in mid-winter no problem, but, hatred and unrest boiling over I am not sure I would make it through given my circumstances.
I feel that the whole country is more vulnerable now, than before the election.

Part of Self-Sufficiency & Preparedness is being ready to face virtually any form of adversity, not just the usual "things that have happened here before". I am the one who coined the term "weather prepper", that infuriates so many folks here with their little 72-hour kits that will get them by, until FEMA comes along. Not saying that you are in that category, but so many are: flashlight - check, sleeping bag - check....etc.

Those things are nice to have for a temporary power outage. How do they help people when blood is running in the streets? The urbanite who feels that it's nonsense to move out of Dodge, is exactly the one who I am addressing here. A garage full of 'preps' won't help if there's a riot going on right outside that garage.

Those who are not prepared for violence in the city streets, or in the suburbs, are second-guessing themselves. Please re-think your position, and get to safety. You know what's in the cities, right?
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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“Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.â€

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
You know what? I think he was wrong.

Look at the baby boomers. The youth movement in the 1960s and 70s, of which my generation was a part, was inspired by nearly the same things. Long hair, music from the Beatles and the Stones, smoking weed, attending sit-ins organized by leftist professors.....our parents had us given up for lost.

But good grief, look at us now! A bunch of old white guys, balding, going to the polls and voting for Trump! Oh, and those sexy babes with surfboards and the flowers in their hair? That's the wife!
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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You know what? I think he was wrong.

Look at the baby boomers. The youth movement in the 1960s and 70s, of which my generation was a part, was inspired by nearly the same things. Long hair, music from the Beatles and the Stones, smoking weed, attending sit-ins organized by leftist professors.....our parents had us given up for lost.

But good grief, look at us now! A bunch of old white guys, balding, going to the polls and voting for Trump! Oh, and those sexy babes with surfboards and the flowers in their hair? That's the wife!

My wife was one of those that had a Farah Fawcett hairdo, but I get your drift

I would agree, this has been prevalent in our society since the end of WWII, and it just keeps getting worse.
Joe McCarthy was a lot more right than people want to admit. The KGB had plants in several colleges stirring up communist activities to weaken the country for Khrushchev. He's the one that said they would destroy us from within.

He was right.
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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I used to have full faith that Egypt could weather any storm, that our people were the brightest, most industrious, and most responsible on earth. Years of traveling the country, working in construction and maintenance, have shown me to be incorrect. SOME of our people fit my initial ideal, to be sure. But the majority I have seen over the last two decades are far from it, and it is getting worse with time. Now, with the looming financial tsunami, and a morally bereft population used to a lifetime of instant gratification and participation awards, I fear we lack both the principles and the fortitude to do what is necessary to fix the mess. Anyone who believes differently needs to get out more. It is easy to shrink the nation to the scale of our own AO's and default to the belief that the majority of Egyptians are just like our neighbors. I am here to tell you they are not. We are in trouble. The monetary deficit is bad, but surmountable. The leadership deficit is deplorable, but survivable. However, the moral deficit of the people of this nation is what will truly be our undoing. Buy it cheap(as you can) and stack it deep, fellas. You won't be sorry.
^^^ancient Egyptian tomb inscription
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Early America
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I agree, but disagree that they will get "the vast majority" to vote the way they want. We are seeing a wave of backlash against all this, as if Americans can be tolerant to a point -- bit it's going too far now.

Yes, they are indoctrinating the young, but most of them are not buying into it. We see those who are, in the streets protesting, and assume they represent all. "The vast majority" do not participate. Most of the rioters are being paid by George Soros, an 86-year-old white European male (born Jewish) who just wants to make more money. He already has more money than he needs, for the few years he has left.

A wave of populism is sweeping not just the US, but the EU. Thus we see the election of Trump, the Brexit vote, the rise of Marine LePen in France, and the widespread protests in Germany against "Rape-ugees", and Angela Merkel - such a good role model for women in politics in other respscts - likely to be ousted this year, along with Hollande. Europe, like the US, is sick and tired of it all.
Maybe not, but the majority of American kids attend public schools. Progressives have infested K-12 and quadrupled down on stupid. They keep many of those kids and young adults on the chain afterwards through pop culture. Many of their parents have been indoctrinated, and many of them are too busy or distracted to pay attention to what their kids are taught. Or not taught as the case may be.

Their latest assault is on what they call fake news sites. I have seen some of the lists they are circulating. They are sites expressing opinions different from theirs. They are lobbying businesses to suppress or remove them from the index. Google has expressed an interest in cooperating.

I look forward to seeing what happens in the upcoming European elections. I think Soros is interested in more than money. He seems to enjoy manipulating people and countries. I think he is a megalomaniac and an enemy to Western culture.
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Early America
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The battle lines between those that favor freedom, opportunity, individualism, patriotism, giving an equal chance to everybody-not an equal outcome, and those that favor repression, socialism, communism, progressivism, hate of selected segments of the population were drawn long ago.

The left is patient. They know they can't win in a full frontal assault, so they chip away at your freedoms gradually.
The right of free speech becomes "politically correct" speech. The right to keep and bear arms becomes gun control.
Freedom of association becomes "anti-segregation". Judeo-Christian beliefs are demonized while Islamic terrorists are seen as "freedom fighters".

It's a bastardization of core beliefs that this country was founded on, twisted to a perverted evil shadow of what was always right and promoted family, God and country.

I know the left will never give up, they're too hungry for power and control, (see Hillary and Obama), but we have a small opportunity to set them back.

The problem is, most of those who believe in self reliance are too busy creating a life for themselves and their families that they don't have time to protest or run for political office, so the cancer of "progressivism" eats away at the soul of the country unabated.

I have no illusions that the left has been stopped by this election, or Brexit, or other movements around the world. They'll lick their wounds and come back more vicious again and again until we all wear chairman Mao jackets and live under the new world order of the globalists.

That's why I provide for me and mine, I vote, I talk to my representatives, I donate time and money to good causes, and while I hope for the best, I prepare for the worst.
Yep. They are very patient. Political correctness, multiculturalism, cultural appropriation, etc., are just terms used to rebrand marxism/frankfurt school theory.

Kids don't know that because they are not taught factual history. It's easy to bamboozle people who know next to nothing of history.
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