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Old 11-26-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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U don't spontaneously buy stocks only to sell them after 1 year at a loss.... u have to be in it for the long-term or lifetime for it to pay off... similarly u don't prep for 1 year, then quit just because Trump is the new president (sell your stocks at a loss after 1 year)....

Basically u should be into preparedness for a lifetime, otherwise a SHTF will come when u least expect it, during a time which all was suppose to be great. The threat to normal life never goes away but transforms into something else.
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Old 11-26-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Agreed....

Care to expand on your point?
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Old 11-26-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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similarly u don't prep for 1 year, then quit just because Trump is the new president...
No you don't, but some people are relaxing and doing just that.

You can't depend on anything. There is now a movement afoot, calling for a recount of all the swing states. If that happens, what % chance do you give for a fair and accurate recount? These people want to stop the electors (Electoral College) from giving the win to Trump, when they vote on December 19th.

If that happens, talk about civil war! There are deep divisions in this country, and explosive emotions.
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Old 11-27-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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U don't spontaneously buy stocks only to sell them after 1 year at a loss.... u have to be in it for the long-term or lifetime for it to pay off... similarly u don't prep for 1 year, then quit just because Trump is the new president (sell your stocks at a loss after 1 year)....
Regardless of who the president is they can not remove the possibility of solar flares, or EMPs, or earthquakes, hurricanes, droughts, none of these disasters can be prevented by a president.



Our national debt is way out of control.

In 1933 at the end of the Hoover administration National Debt was $23Billion.
Franklin D. Roosevelt added $236 billion to our National Debt.
Harry Truman added $7 billion to our National Debt [a 3% increase].
Dwight Eisenhower added $23 billion [a 9% increase].
John F. Kennedy added $23 billion [a 8% increase].
Lyndon B. Johnson added $42 billion [a 13% increase].
Richard Nixon added $121 billion [a 34% increase].
Gerald Ford added $224 billion [a 47% increase].
Jimmy Carter added $299 billion [a 43% increase].
Ronald Reagan added $1.86 trillion [186% increase].
George H.W. Bush added $1.554 trillion [a 54% increase].
Bill Clinton added $1.396 trillion [a 32% increase].
George W. Bush added $5.849 trillion [a 101% increase].
Barack Obama has so far added $7.917 trillion [a 68 percent]

We have just a hair under $20Trillion in debt. Both Dems and Repubs seem bent on increasing our debt.

I seriously debt that Trump will lessen our debt.



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... Basically u should be into preparedness for a lifetime, otherwise a SHTF will come when u least expect it, during a time which all was suppose to be great. The threat to normal life never goes away but transforms into something else.
My 'prepping' is my lifestyle.

We own our home and farm with no debt. We are on solar-power. We grow our own food, we market the surplus food we produce. We have lots of fertile land with extremely low property taxes, there is no 'threat' that I am ever going to lose my farm due to back taxes. We are well tied in with local community of: craftsmen, self-sufficient farmers, hunters, fishermen, trappers, and prepper / survivalist / homesteaders.
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Old 11-27-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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U don't spontaneously buy stocks only to sell them after 1 year at a loss.... u have to be in it for the long-term or lifetime for it to pay off...
You don't know much about buying and selling stocks, do you?

I have stocks I've held for years...and others I sold only a few hours after buying them. I have even been on the board with bids to buy and offers to sell at the same time on the same stock. Some people even sell stocks that they don't actually own, *hoping* that the price will go lower so that they can buy them back cheaper and make a profit on the difference.

What else do you not know much about, but spout off anyway?
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Old 11-27-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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Never!!! Agreed!!!
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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No you don't, but some people are relaxing and doing just that.

You can't depend on anything. There is now a movement afoot, calling for a recount of all the swing states. If that happens, what % chance do you give for a fair and accurate recount? These people want to stop the electors (Electoral College) from giving the win to Trump, when they vote on December 19th.

If that happens, talk about civil war! There are deep divisions in this country, and explosive emotions.
The only thing left to stop Trump's presidency now seems to be a JFK scenario. Trump is aware of this too, so hopefully he has an understanding with whatever powers may try that. If he's a great deal maker he has more to offer than Obama so I think he would be fine. I wonder if Trump would do anything with the federal reserve like an audit or abolishing. We've had the Fed for so long people think they're necessary.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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Regardless of who the president is they can not remove the possibility of solar flares, or EMPs, or earthquakes, hurricanes, droughts, none of these disasters can be prevented by a president.



Our national debt is way out of control.

In 1933 at the end of the Hoover administration National Debt was $23Billion.
Franklin D. Roosevelt added $236 billion to our National Debt.
Harry Truman added $7 billion to our National Debt [a 3% increase].
Dwight Eisenhower added $23 billion [a 9% increase].
John F. Kennedy added $23 billion [a 8% increase].
Lyndon B. Johnson added $42 billion [a 13% increase].
Richard Nixon added $121 billion [a 34% increase].
Gerald Ford added $224 billion [a 47% increase].
Jimmy Carter added $299 billion [a 43% increase].
Ronald Reagan added $1.86 trillion [186% increase].
George H.W. Bush added $1.554 trillion [a 54% increase].
Bill Clinton added $1.396 trillion [a 32% increase].
George W. Bush added $5.849 trillion [a 101% increase].
Barack Obama has so far added $7.917 trillion [a 68 percent]

We have just a hair under $20Trillion in debt. Both Dems and Repubs seem bent on increasing our debt.

I seriously debt that Trump will lessen our debt.





My 'prepping' is my lifestyle.

We own our home and farm with no debt. We are on solar-power. We grow our own food, we market the surplus food we produce. We have lots of fertile land with extremely low property taxes, there is no 'threat' that I am ever going to lose my farm due to back taxes. We are well tied in with local community of: craftsmen, self-sufficient farmers, hunters, fishermen, trappers, and prepper / survivalist / homesteaders.
Trump has to lower the debt, otherwise I would consider his term of false pretense how I do Obama's, not even trying to reach a basic campaign promise. I had debt but "solved" it by taking a beating to my credit since I don't see myself needing credit in the future.

I dream to have some animals. One day when I don't have to travel for work so much it'll be possible. I consider communities very important, relationships don't happen overnight.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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You don't know much about buying and selling stocks, do you?

I have stocks I've held for years...and others I sold only a few hours after buying them. I have even been on the board with bids to buy and offers to sell at the same time on the same stock. Some people even sell stocks that they don't actually own, *hoping* that the price will go lower so that they can buy them back cheaper and make a profit on the difference.

What else do you not know much about, but spout off anyway?
I know exactly what you're referring to. I've had margin accounts and traded options. But when I talk to random people I like to stay on the same page.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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Agreed....

Care to expand on your point?
My point is simple actually. I moved into a city from the country and practically quit being "prepared" how I use to be. Then moved back to the country and realized how I almost gave up prepping. I no longer wait for the market to crash or EMP, etc but it's the small emergencies that can get u hurt. We had a drought in NC and my water quit running. Luckily there was more water down there but I didn't have much fresh water to spare. I would have had to tote it from a lake.
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