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I planned on doing this if HRC secured the election due to her enthusiasm for war with Iran and Russia. Now I foresee a significant threat towards "socioeconomic" unrest. I think our social fabric is unraveling and will likely get much worse.
I can't defend this big house against a mob. I could easily defend an underground bunker. Which, by the way, would be very easy to maintain at a comfortable temperature.
If you want an underground bunker, now's the time to set it up. If something were to happen in society, it would be too late then, and such projects take time, if you do them right. I assume you are not an urban dweller, or the site for your bunker is not urban. Once it was out that you had an urban bunker - and it would get out, believe me - there would be no defending it. Same is probably true in a suburban setting. Choose your site with care. I would build it off-site.
Unless you build it yourself, underground shelters can be pricey. You should also consider something fortified above ground, but not a "dwelling". A steel building, a barn, a garage, a shipping container ... whatever. It only needs to look like that on the outside; you can set up the inside any way you wish. You can even half-bury such a structure, say, into a hillside. I have seen instances where a large step van truck was driven head-first (slowly) into an excavated hillside, leaving only the rear metal doors exposed. That one was used as a root cellar.
Choose the cheapest and easiest method to get the enclosed space you want. Use your imagination. Have fun!
Thanks for the input folks. Yes.....likely a three year project. Something like that. I have five fenced acres here but there are a couple problems:
1) Second coldest region in Colorado. This also means that winter lasts 1-2 months longer. -30F is entirely possible.
2) I built a large pole barn structure in a poor county. Everything was rosy until they legalized marijuana. Then the potheads moved in. I feel like vultures are watching me. My property suffers from vandalism as much as theft. Flattened tires from screws and valve stem loosening. Shooting car windows with BB guns. Combing the outside every time I leave. Building absolutely hideous structures such as surrounding a camper with straw bales and old tires.
Good news:
1) I have a back hoe though it is small to medium sized and old.....70's Case.
2) Have some properties for sale that should free up cash for a remote purchase.
Objectives:
1) Slightly milder climate so winter does not last as long. Getting well below 0F is really too cold for my tastes.
2) More remote location with no public roads servicing it. Thinking something along the lines of a few acres in the middle of a large farm or ranch. Where the terrain makes it less desirable for the owner to use. Rough terrain is a plus to me. Somewhat extreme 4 wheeling is my thing.
This concept was born pretty recently so many changes will likely be made as growing knowledge is grappled with.
There isn't going to be a nuclear war or any major social dislocation. Both this country and the world are in better shape than they've been in years. We'll soon be friends with North Korea. Trump will sweeten the deal by giving Kim an apartment in Trump Tower. The ranks of White Nationalists are growing. The WN folks I've met are great people, but many are National Socialist, an economic system that doesn't appeal to me. Nonetheless, they can be good friends and neighbors.
When you need a bunker to protect yourself from the locals you need to leave. The best isolation is in northern Nevada and NW Utah well north of I-80. I saw a place in northern Nevada that was seventy miles from the nearest water and over a hundred miles from a town. The road needed major improvements to allow the use of a large tanker.
There are places north of Casper, Wyoming that are almost impossible to reach at times. No one goes up that way except the few people who live there.
OP-SEC suggestion
When discussing bunkers, one does not mention bunkers.
One discusses "deep root cellars" or "storm cellars" or "vegetable storage systems."
Or one is installing a sublevel heat exchanger array for a geothermal heat pump.
And any emergency egress (aka "tunnel") is a condensation drain or ventilation shaft or drainage culvert.
[wink, wink, nod, nod]
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