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Old 12-09-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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I go to Barnes and Noble often here in NYC and I see lines of people about to purchase books. Books on Amazon are far cheaper and Barnes and Noble don't match prices. Barnes and Noble member discounts are pretty laughable as well. The way Barnes and Noble run their business is strange because they don't try to reach out to the customers. They have a very corporate structure and they operate their business like it's still 1999.

Why would anyone chose Barnes and Noble over Amazon.com?
So I can enjoy my Espresso coffee. Plus you can look through the book for damage on collectible books. I received one the other day with the Front cover was bent in half.Now you have to do the return nightmare.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:26 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Where will you go when B&N goes under? If more were like you they will.

As to 2+ days, for a Kindle book it’s about 2 seconds. And with Kindle Unlimited there are a whole bunch to read with no purchase fees.
People retain material from the printed page better than they do from the screen. Studies have been done on this. Look them up on your Kindle. Here's a story from near the top of google's results on the subject:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...r-digitisation
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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I guess because some people would rather support their local economies, including local jobs, than be a tool for Jeff Bezos.
Not at all a fan of that guy.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Not only that but the next person is buying a book that’s been pawed over for hours. Ew.
Do you avoid libraries for hygienic reasons as well?
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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It's more convenient if the books are shipped to my home. Why carry all those books back home?
If a person has some kind of disability or injury, I can see that. But if you're just too danged lazy to leave the house ...

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I'm friendly with many of the employees in the store; on a rainy November morning semi-recently, the one remarked loudly, to me and for the benefit of one of his co-workers within earshot, 'I envy you--you read a book per day!'
Too self-involved to recognize sarcasm?

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But if I'm borrowing a book from a library, I'm not paying for it either, so I fail to see why book-borrowing is preferable to in-store reading.
Because the library paid for the book in order to circulate it?
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Too self-involved to recognize sarcasm?
Too presumptuous in your assumption that that comment was in fact sarcastic? That dude is a full-time worker; he's seen me in there for years. We greet one another when we see each other...in a friendly manner, not a 'put our merchandise down once and for all' kind of way. I befriended a former cafe worker who like me enjoyed reading philosophy...he'd come over on break and ask what I was reading on a given day, talk about what he was reading for his online courses, etc. I've never been a persona non grata at this store...you f*cking people are absurd in assuming that a bookstore in the digital/attention span-deprived era of 2017 would *not* want to encourage people to be in their store for whatever reason they can muster.
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Because the library paid for the book in order to circulate it?
Sunk cost. My borrowing or lack thereof has no effect on future income for authors, given that the book has already been purchased by the library.

Edit to say that I'll continue to adhere to my philosophy of refraining from using condescending emojis in my posts.
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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People retain material from the printed page better than they do from the screen. Studies have been done on this. Look them up on your Kindle. Here's a story from near the top of google's results on the subject:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...r-digitisation
Thanks for the link. Seems interesting but hardly conclusive. A contrary study -

Do eBooks Make It Harder to Recall What You Just Read? Answer: No | The Digital Reader

I’ve been using a Kindle, or Kindle reader on the iPad ever since it was available - 10 years ago now for the first Kindle. I’ve read literally hundreds of books in the format, and some books first on paper then re-read on the Kindle (and vice versa). Personally I have found zero difference, as long as the book was reasonably formatted.

You may prefer to read for free while sipping your coffee, but I will stick with a clean digital copy that I can more easily take with me.
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Thanks for the link. Seems interesting but hardly conclusive. A contrary study -

Do eBooks Make It Harder to Recall What You Just Read? Answer: No | The Digital Reader

I’ve been using a Kindle, or Kindle reader on the iPad ever since it was available - 10 years ago now for the first Kindle. I’ve read literally hundreds of books in the format, and some books first on paper then re-read on the Kindle (and vice versa). Personally I have found zero difference, as long as the book was reasonably formatted.

You may prefer to read for free while sipping your coffee, but I will stick with a clean digital copy that I can more easily take with me.
Kindle editions are making only minor improvements in tables, graphs, maps, and half tones. Printing anything not found on a common keyboard is usually a disaster.

I'll buy Kindle editions if they are text only, Roman alphabet only, small format only, not otherwise. That excludes a bunch of books.
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Old 12-09-2017, 11:37 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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I go to Barnes and Noble often here in NYC and I see lines of people about to purchase books. Books on Amazon are far cheaper and Barnes and Noble don't match prices. Barnes and Noble member discounts are pretty laughable as well. The way Barnes and Noble run their business is strange because they don't try to reach out to the customers. They have a very corporate structure and they operate their business like it's still 1999.

Why would anyone chose Barnes and Noble over Amazon.com?
--I no longer live near a B&N, but their food was half decent with decent variety. I could chow down while "borrowing" one of their books.
--Even though it's the exception than the norm, it's nice to preview the book up close and personal
--already there reading a bunch of their magazines and periodicals. May as well grab a book as a gift while I'm there
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