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Old 07-09-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Investing in and nurturing industries that produce high-wage, knowledge-based jobs and that help attract and retain young educated professional just isn't a priority in SC. It would rather shell out tons of incentive money (much of which could go towards education) to these huge manufacturers that offer a disproportionate amount of temp jobs and has to import talent for the top tier jobs. Manufacturing has its place in a dynamic, growing state economy but SC has made it the end-all, be-all and in terms of creating a more prosperous, educated populace, it's not a winning strategy.

This is not true at all. Have you heard of SC's SmartState program to help grow our state’s knowledge-based economy?
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: North Charleston
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I think its an old south mentality, with the end of the Civil War, SC's bread and butter was manufacturing and they stuck with it. That's fine until the demand falls, after the Reconstruction era other southern states began finding other means of supporting themselves, with slavery being abolished. South Carolina, on the other hand , still felt like "its been working why stop now", which held us back especially since the majority of our labor force(slaves) where either on there way north or settling into there own lands. So, bout time we figured things out we where already behind by maybe 40-50 years in terms educating the public, modernization, and developing a work force of intelligence based jobs. Up until the 50's or 60's you had to leave STATE to anything other than a manufacturing or retail job. Also that discourages any out of towners to move to our state leaving in a sort of isolation, and if you look at our surroundings states we are, economicaly and education wise.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: North Charleston
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Columbia is a behemoth in waiting. Don't mess with Columbia. Now, to continue filling out that grid.
What goes around comes around, cola jumped Charleston long ago now It looks as if the tables have turned once again. Once Joe leaves office in a couple years, Uh oh, the sleeping giant will be awoken. And with it's side kick N. Charleston coming along for the ride, Cola might be looking at #3 in the not to distant future.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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This is not true at all. Have you heard of SC's SmartState program to help grow our state’s knowledge-based economy?
Yes, but funding has historically been an issue which shows that it hasn't truly been a priority for the state. I'm sure Boeing got more in incentives than this program has gotten in funding since it was started.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:11 AM
 
Location: North Charleston
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Yes, but funding has historically been an issue which shows that it hasn't truly been a priority for the state. I'm sure Boeing got more in incentives than this program has gotten in funding since it was started.
Sad but true statement, but the powers that be dont want to cut anything from their precious budget. But I think the lottery helps a lot along as the money is handled appropriately. Lets educate SC!!!
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Athens, Greece (Hometowm: Irmo, SC)
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It's possible but I'd hate to see a suburb become the state's largest city as opposed to a traditional, older city. But Columbia also has lots of annexation possibilities, particularly to the northeast.
And Olympia, so I've heard on here. Still astonishes me how that isn't a part of the city of Columbia.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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Yes, but funding has historically been an issue which shows that it hasn't truly been a priority for the state. I'm sure Boeing got more in incentives than this program has gotten in funding since it was started.

Regardless of past events, it's about the here and now and the future. . State money for the program is matched dollar-for-dollar by non-state investors. To date, because of the program it has resulted in more than $1.2 billion dollars in non-state investment into the South Carolina economy. I just don't think it's accurate to say investing in our state’s knowledge-based economy isn't seen as priority by our government. I would like to think they are capable of having more than one priority at a time. South Carolina has been moving in the right direction in recent years, and obviously there’s still ample room for improvement.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte (Hometown: Columbia SC)
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And Raleigh, NC has more people than Atlanta, GA in city limits. Therefore the capital of NC is larger than the capital of GA! Hurray! Oh, and Cary, NC (is the 7th largest city in NC, it's even larger than SC's LARGEST city)...City limit population is horrible to go off of.....
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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Regardless of past events, it's about the here and now and the future. . State money for the program is matched dollar-for-dollar by non-state investors. To date, because of the program it has resulted in more than $1.2 billion dollars in non-state investment into the South Carolina economy. I just don't think it's accurate to say investing in our state’s knowledge-based economy isn't seen as priority by our government. I would like to think they are capable of having more than one priority at a time. South Carolina has been moving in the right direction in recent years, and obviously there’s still ample room for improvement.
This is not the distant past we're talking about. As the article pointed out, as of 2011 the state hadn't funded the program for four whole years. And during that time, manufacturers were getting tons and tons of incentives, tax rebates, etc. SmartState is a good concept in and of itself, but it needs to be part of a broader strategy to strengthen the higher ed infrastructure in SC. SC's public universities are the costliest in the Southeast and while the three research universities have their niches, none of them are overall top-tier research institutions regionally. Even something as obviously effective and necessary as a Board of Regents to oversee all of the state's public colleges and universities can't get off the ground because provincialism trumps pragmatism in the Legislature. The state has a LOT of ground to make up in terms of creating and luring more high-wage, knowledge-based jobs to the state compared to neighboring states.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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And Raleigh, NC has more people than Atlanta, GA in city limits. Therefore the capital of NC is larger than the capital of GA! Hurray! Oh, and Cary, NC (is the 7th largest city in NC, it's even larger than SC's LARGEST city)...City limit population is horrible to go off of.....
Well it's a bit different when comparing cities in different states, since states have their own laws and such regarding annexation, consolidation, etc. which typically differ from state to state. I think we all know that in SC, the "Big Three" are roughly the same size, so the whole "largest municipality" thing would be primarily for bragging rights and not much else.
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