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Old 07-21-2011, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Rays would be a lot better if their players would spend more time on the practice field and less time getting drunk in the bars until they close night after night.

 
Old 07-22-2011, 12:01 AM
 
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Rays would be a lot better if their players would spend more time on the practice field and less time getting drunk in the bars until they close night after night.
I've noticed that you make a lot of negative and inflammatory comments on CD. You do know that the Rays are one of the top 5-6 teams in baseball this year, right? Have you seen a bunch of Rays out late, drinking? Is that what you do, stay out, drinking?
 
Old 07-22-2011, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Rays would be a lot better if their players would spend more time on the practice field and less time getting drunk in the bars until they close night after night.
Do you see them in bars at night? Which bars?

I think for the most part, the team is over achieving except for Longoria, Upton, and a Shoppach and a couple of the pitchers. Many of the other players wouldn't be on a major league squad.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 06:01 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee
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A new stadium would make the MLB happy and give work to some of the unemployed for a while. I wince to think how much it would cost to buy land and build a new one though. Could it be done without the taxpayers having to bear the cost? That (taxpayer burden) always seems a bit unfair to me since a good portion of Florida's revenue comes from tourists. If this was covered already, I apologize. I didn't read every post in the thread.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Word is that another tax on tourist would be earmarked to build the stadium (hotel, rental cars). The price for a stadium has been placed at $400-500 million.

Since not everyone is a sports fan or baseball fan, not sure why anyone other than the team's owners should pay.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Let them move, as long as we have football and hockey, I am fine with that. We dont need baseball or basketball.

Let our greedy owner see if the grass is greener elsewhere. Maybe he can move to Oklahoma City like the greedy owners of the Seattle Supersonics did
 
Old 07-22-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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Ignoring that post, I'd drive to see a rays game, if the staidum were built in downtown Tampa. I'm not driving across that bridge to see a rays game though. I feel as though the stadium should be built in a prime location. SO WHAT who cares how bad a neighborhood is. Example in Orlando Amway Arena and Amway Center are boarding the "paramore" neighborhood of Orlando, and we have sold out every game. Yes I know it's basketball, but we have a transient population, and all of that other nonsense some people has posted. Transient population HAS NOTHING to do with attendance because whether people are cheering for the home team are not, they still are going to come to see which ever team they want to support. Right or wrong?
You only have one major sports team in Orlando, so there is no competition for sports dollars. I know people that rotate their season tickets between Tampa teams annually, because they like all three but obviously can't afford to attend 81 + 41 + 8 + pre-season + post-season games every year.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 10:09 AM
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How can the location card NOT be played? It's hard to dispute a study that was objectively done. Here are the results...downtown Tampa is the place that has the most people within a 30 minute drive, and beats out downtown St Pete by a large margin.
I think you missed the point of my post, which is that moving the team from the Trop to downtown Tampa doesn't help you get home to Wesley Chapel materially earlier. It's 20 minutes of highway time between the two -- and if more people go, you'd lose that 20 minutes just getting out of the parking lot. Plus, the study implies that the north end of St. Pete (Gateway) would be be comparable to downtown Tampa, and the Gateway area is only 10 minutes from the Trop.

Location is important, as I posted before. I disagree with your get-home-late reason.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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I think you missed the point of my post, which is that moving the team from the Trop to downtown Tampa doesn't help you get home to Wesley Chapel materially earlier. It's 20 minutes of highway time between the two -- and if more people go, you'd lose that 20 minutes just getting out of the parking lot. Plus, the study implies that the north end of St. Pete (Gateway) would be be comparable to downtown Tampa, and the Gateway area is only 10 minutes from the Trop.

Location is important, as I posted before. I disagree with your get-home-late reason.
Have you ever made that drive? I can get to downtown Tampa in about 30 minutes. It's close to an hour to downtown St Pete.

And it's not just me...did you read my post? 1.1M people within 30 minutes of the Trop. 1.8M within 30 minutes of downtown Tampa...and more people with higher incomes, more companies with employees...

those are not disputable figures. The Trop is a bad location, and if you're going to move the stadium, it should be placed in the most optimal location...downtown Tampa.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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Where could they even built it downtown? The old Central Park Village land is already accounted for. The only other place is that area just north of the Ice Palace
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