Hard freeze predicted! (Tampa, Orlando, Clearwater: section 8, university, quality of life)

[gypsychic]

Re: The Greater Tampa Bay Area: This has been argued here before, but it is simply a term used by various government agencies that defines their jurisdiction. Algia I don't understand why this seems to be such a big deal to you, but the four counties mentioned here ARE the "Tampa Bay Area Metro", and the EXPANDED area includes Sarasota, Manatee and Polk.

Tampa Bay Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you don't want to personally acknowledge that, that's fine, but that doesn't change anything; others can and DO recognize the "Tampa Bay Area." Key word "AREA".

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Originally Posted by TXRyan23

For the love of God, Hernando County has been a part of the Tampa Bay Area LONG before uncontrolled building. Do you honestly believe that the "Tampa Bay Area" only consists of a 15 mile radius around the City of Tampa?!?

What is the problem with that? If someone from Montana wants to move to "Tampa" they are probably NOT looking to move to Brooksville because Brooksville too is part of "Tampa Bay"!...it gives transplants a fake idea regarding the area. Plus, Hernando county is nothing more than a big large sub division. It is because they have nothing to identify themselves with that they attached themselves to "Tampa Bay"! This phrase alone is so senseless it is hilarious!

Its county seat is Brooksville[2] and its largest community is unincorporated Spring Hill. Hernando, together with Pasco, Hillsborough, and Pinellas counties to the south comprise the Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater Metropolitan Statistical Area, and along with various combinations of Manatee and Sarasota counties further south, Citrus County to the north, and Polk County to the southeast is often referred to as the Tampa Bay Area.

.....and Orange county to the east makes it the "extended" Tampa Bay area! Might as well make all of Florida part of Tampa Bay! or better, let's take south Georgia and add to this as well because Tampa Bay is not big enough yet!



This because the actual "City of Tampa" is made up from crack town to the east, and South Tampa to the south! Not enough "statistics" to come up some middle class for the area...so they extended north, south east and west to get that! Its just ridiculous.

Tampa "city limits" population IS 346,037 (in 2011)...and "Tampa Bay" is a sprawl. Like Chandler, Gilbert, are in Arizona.

That would give the Metropolitan Tampa Bay Area a population of what? 300,000?

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Originally Posted by gypsychic

Re: The Greater Tampa Bay Area: This has been argued here before, but it is simply a term used by various government agencies that defines their jurisdiction. Algia I don't understand why this seems to be such a big deal to you, but the four counties mentioned here ARE the "Tampa Bay Area Metro", and the EXPANDED area includes Sarasota, Manatee and Polk.

Tampa Bay Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you don't want to personally acknowledge that, that's fine, but that doesn't change anything; others can and DO recognize the "Tampa Bay Area." Key word "AREA".

I don't have a problem with it at all, I find it quite hilarious actually, and you couldn't pay me enough to live there. BUT, If I never been to this area at all, (considering this is a relocation forum after all), and I lived in Washington State all my life, and someone told me to look in SH for example cause its also in "Tampa bay", and I moved, and now I am finding that with traffic my commutes just skyrocketed out of control...I would be very pissed. So while to you, or others "distances" don't matter much...Is might matter to other people. Not everyone is into 1 hour commutes. So, I am going to clearly point that out. The same thing happens on the east coast with WPB and Miami...would not want that commute if I made 100 million bucks a day. Not everyone is retired with tons of time to spare, and there are people who would like to be at the beach, or St Pete's Attractions within a reasonable time frame. Living in Hernando just doesn't warrant that to those who chose to live there.

[Spring Hillian]

I already knew you had no idea what is in and around Hernando County you seem to be confusing it with somewhere else. People who live here know exactly where Hernando County is and why they seek it as a place to be.

Its in the Tampa–St. Petersburg–Clearwater Metropolitan Statistical Area (or MSA) defined by the United States Census Bureau and not some people who told someone else.

You're right. Grapefruit was well chilled this morning off the tree.

Originally Posted by algia

Hillsborough county starts at exit 25 on I-4, and half of it is rural. No, when you say: "Tampa Bay" that doesn't mean Sarasota either!

Brooksville (In Hernando County) is 54 miles from Tampa! The ONLY reason these ppl are telling other ppl that "Hernando County" is in Tampa Bay is because if they told relatives or friends where they lived, they'd be like: "where is that?" they are probably embarrassed that all they have around them is pastures and strip malls! hahahahahaaha Thankfully it is pretty clear on MAPS where Hernando County REALLY IS! So those who want to avoid cowrly neighbors CAN see where Tampa Bay is. (Hence where the civilization is in the central-northish west side of Florida)!



Well be grateful, your juice will already be cold!

[Spring Hillian]

I look at it this way. If someone does not believe the facts, well, then let them go on with their misguided thoughts. I lived in Orlando for 17 years before coming to the Nature Coast for all it offered so I know what your talking about.

I tell people I live "45 miles north of Tampa" and that is about it. Tampa has not much to do with
Hernando County, but I am not going to disagree with the accepted facts that I am still in the Tampa Bay MSA.

Originally Posted by Mike1306

Actually the reason people are saying Hernando County is in the Tampa Bay area is due to the fact that it is. Some people just do not want to accept that fact though in face of evidence provided.
I don't think your map was needed as one was already provided showing the Tampa metro area which includes Hernando, the map provided was from the U.S. census web site.
Some of us that live in Hernando have also lived in St.Pete, Clearwater, and other places in the Tampa Bay area before deciding to move to Hernando. Well aware of what the area had and happy for what it offered, not at all embarrassed that I live on 3.6 acres in a nice house with nice quiet solitude.
Once again your posts really bring nothing to the thread, what is a cowrly neighbor?

[Spring Hillian]

Not news. Happens every winter usually. Maybe Chas has some details as to what years Pasco didn't get into the 20's in winter.

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Newest update from WFLA:

Pasco county low to mid twenties tonight.

Freeze watch Hillsborough County all the way south well past Sarasota.

[Spring Hillian]

YES it is "way up there" in comparison to Tampa. Different climate? Yeah, we use special Hernando County money here too.

Uncontrolled builders? That only proves you know nothing about how Hernando County controls growth issues. Educate yourself if you wish: http://www.co.hernando.fl.us/plan/smartgrowth.pdf

A lot of Hernando County residents got fed up with urban living and are here. Seems to be a trend.

Originally Posted by algia

It means that your immediate neighbors are cows, and not people! LOL


Believe what you want...Hernando County is way up there, climate is different, and it was "added" to the Tampa Bay precisely for what I said. Uncontrolled builders went rampant up there, hence the quote below, growing=rampant building, and then they realized that nobody knows where the hell they are! so they decided to attach to 54 miles south, so ppl have some idea as to where those "big large homes" are located!


Look, its great for everyone who wants to be far, far on a pasture away from civilization...but those with jobs, kids, and daily commutes will eventually HATE living that far north. Not to mention that it defeats the reason most move here: "warm weather year round"! hahahahahahahahaha

Have you ever noticed that when you say: "Sarasota" people know where that IS, without IT being attached to "Tampa Bay"!

[Spring Hillian]

You certainly are grossly misinformed:

"Hernando county is nothing more than a big large sub division.".

You should attempt a visit some day to invalidate your misconceptions.

Originally Posted by algia

What is the problem with that? If someone from Montana wants to move to "Tampa" they are probably NOT looking to move to Brooksville because Brooksville too is part of "Tampa Bay"!...it gives transplants a fake idea regarding the area. Plus, Hernando county is nothing more than a big large sub division. It is because they have nothing to identify themselves with that they attached themselves to "Tampa Bay"! This phrase alone is so senseless it is hilarious!
.....and Orange county to the east makes it the "extended" Tampa Bay area! Might as well make all of Florida part of Tampa Bay! or better, let's take south Georgia and add to this as well because Tampa Bay is not big enough yet!



This because the actual "City of Tampa" is made up from crack town to the east, and South Tampa to the south! Not enough "statistics" to come up some middle class for the area...so they extended north, south east and west to get that! Its just ridiculous.

Tampa "city limits" population IS 346,037 (in 2011)...and "Tampa Bay" is a sprawl. Like Chandler, Gilbert, are in Arizona.

[Spring Hillian]

Someone looking at Hernando County is looking for a certain lifestyle. Same with most rural counties in FL. Not everyone who lives here works in Tampa. Not everyone here is retired with "tons of time to spare". Tampa Bay is a body of water. The Tampa Bay MSA is another thing. It actually seems you are envious of Hernando County.

Originally Posted by algia

I don't have a problem with it at all, I find it quite hilarious actually, and you couldn't pay me enough to live there. BUT, If I never been to this area at all, (considering this is a relocation forum after all), and I lived in Washington State all my life, and someone told me to look in SH for example cause its also in "Tampa bay", and I moved, and now I am finding that with traffic my commutes just skyrocketed out of control...I would be very pissed. So while to you, or others "distances" don't matter much...Is might matter to other people. Not everyone is into 1 hour commutes. So, I am going to clearly point that out. The same thing happens on the east coast with WPB and Miami...would not want that commute if I made 100 million bucks a day. Not everyone is retired with tons of time to spare, and there are people who would like to be at the beach, or St Pete's Attractions within a reasonable time frame. Living in Hernando just doesn't warrant that to those who chose to live there.

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Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

People who live here know exactly where Hernando County is and why they seek it as a place to be.

Yet this is a RELOCATION forum for people who don't live there! A paradox!