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It depends on the area. In PA 50k would work because houses are much cheaper but in NY, that wouldn't work. You're looking at 450k for a smallish house that needs to be updated in a decent area with 10k taxes, so whatever salary would support that mtg plus food and insurance etc. You're looking at closer to 75k to live on LI.
It depends on the area. In PA 50k would work because houses are much cheaper but in NY, that wouldn't work. You're looking at 450k for a smallish house that needs to be updated in a decent area with 10k taxes, so whatever salary would support that mtg plus food and insurance etc. You're looking at closer to 75k to live on LI.
I guess a better way to ask this would be low, medium or high for the area.
Personally, I think teachers should make an above average salary but I'm a bit biased
In Michigan the average is somewhere in the mid 50's and I think that's fine. It allows for a decent standard of living and for saving for retirement. Obviously, teachers who have been around a long time will make more than the mid 50's but you do want to keep experience around.
What the market bears as determined by supply/demand, public interest, accessible tax base, community expectations. Newsweek just released their top 1600 high schools which represents I believe the top 6%. Some districts had multiple schools and some had most of their high schools make the list. Others had none. Would be interesting to compare pay schedules of the top 6% with the national average. I know you have to look at location but if you accept that as valid you are really saying something.
What the market bears as determined by supply/demand, public interest, accessible tax base, community expectations. Newsweek just released their top 1600 high schools which represents I believe the top 6%. Some districts had multiple schools and some had most of their high schools make the list. Others had none. Would be interesting to compare pay schedules of the top 6% with the national average. I know you have to look at location but if you accept that as valid you are really saying something.
That Newsweek list is bogus. All it reports is the number of kids that take an AP test, nothing more. They don't even have to PASS the test, just take it. So, most of those "top schools" simply require all their students to take an AP test and they get to be #1. I wouldn't put any stock in their "findings".
That Newsweek list is bogus. All it reports is the number of kids that take an AP test, nothing more. They don't even have to PASS the test, just take it. So, most of those "top schools" simply require all their students to take an AP test and they get to be #1. I wouldn't put any stock in their "findings".
Affluent parents when buying houses look at those types of things. Selected schools proudly proclaim and their districts do also. Accurate or not it increases housing prices and that influences the tax base and there you go with teacher pay. It is very important in the politics of schools and districts. If you are going to pay top dollar for a house because of schools you want your neighbors to be of a like mindset.
That Newsweek list is bogus. All it reports is the number of kids that take an AP test, nothing more. They don't even have to PASS the test, just take it. So, most of those "top schools" simply require all their students to take an AP test and they get to be #1. I wouldn't put any stock in their "findings".
That's Jay Matthews' Challenge Index. Divide the number of AP tests given by the number of graduating seniors at a school = X.XX. The higher the number the "better" the school. Totally disregards the underclassmen taking AP.
At my school we had 92 underclassmen (10/11) in AP and 42 seniors this year. Graduating class was 242. Our Challenge Index will be .5330.
The above is pretty much the story across all 22 high schools in my system with the exception of three Science and Tech magnets.
Last edited by North Beach Person; 06-25-2010 at 08:11 PM..
Reason: correction on calculation
Affluent parents when buying houses look at those types of things. Selected schools proudly proclaim and their districts do also. Accurate or not it increases housing prices and that influences the tax base and there you go with teacher pay. It is very important in the politics of schools and districts.
That is true. It's still phony statistics. Matthews won't answer my emails anymore.
That Newsweek list is bogus. All it reports is the number of kids that take an AP test, nothing more. They don't even have to PASS the test, just take it. So, most of those "top schools" simply require all their students to take an AP test and they get to be #1. I wouldn't put any stock in their "findings".
Not bogus just using selection criteria that you disagree with. AP results and percentage of tests taken are very important evaluation criteria to a lot of people. Not all but a lot. Especially those with higher incomes and the administrators of the schools they attend.
That is true. It's still phony statistics. Matthews won't answer my emails anymore.
LOL, and it works. DC metro area is AP frenzy land. Matthews has become bigger than his history teaching English would suggest.
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