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Old 11-16-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: southern california
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same reason police social workers and all other public servants are hated. they got a good job and money and u dont.
we gota blame somebody for our dirty laundry and u know its not guna be me.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Just read a great open letter to the President from a teacher. They are asking why, ....I think one has to read it to understand...

I am a teacher. You know, one of those about whom you and your Secretary of Education say are so important to our young people. If only I - and thousands, perhaps millions of other teachers - could believe those words.

Continued here--

Dear Mr. President
That letter is very well composed. I hope you know as a teacher you are not hated by most Americans, only by the union-busting far-right. They attack public employees at every opportunity as part of the education privatization movement. We are doing our best to combat them.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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That letter is very well composed. I hope you know as a teacher you are not hated by most Americans, only by the union-busting far-right. They attack public employees at every opportunity as part of the education privatization movement. We are doing our best to combat them.
Unfortanately "they" are winning and influencing education.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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You are not hated you are blamed.

Blamed for something well beyond your control. You are blamed for being a peepee poor parent when you are not the parent. Of course you are not the parent, you're the teacher, but an increasing number of people seem to want assign teachers with parental responsibilities.

Another way to put it is you are being blamed for the peepee poor level of parenting practiced by an increasing number of "parents" during the most important years which is the first four or five.

Johnny doesn't know colors, can't count to 100, has never seen the inside of a library and whose parents never sat down with him to read a book. To keep Johnny entertained they plopped him down in front of the boob tube tuned to Square Bob Sponge Pants for hours and hours on end.

If Johnny is a little hyperactive and hard to handle let's calm him down by feeding him drugs. Drugs are good for control but when it dumbs him down let's blame the teachers.

And it has nothing to do with left or right wing.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I always wondered if the teaching profession was predominately male, would they still be blamed? Probably not!!!!!!
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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Thought with all the staardized test boycotts and huge push to actively PRIVATIZE public education this is appropriate---

Why America Demonizes its teachers
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default NEWS--I am a teacher, why am I hated?

My colleagues don't hate me. My students don't hate me. The state legislature and the federal Dept of Education hate me. Well, them and the loudmouth morons who hate public schools and science in general. But they're simple-minded bozos who are harmless, for the most part.

But the federal and state governments have become malignant to our schools.

I've taught science in large public high schools for 20 years now. Some of my former students have gone on to get PhDs in science from very prestigious universities. I have been tested, certified, fingerprinted, investigated, observed, evaluated and still my classroom methods are suspect and subject to top-down micromanagement by individuals who have next to zero knowledge in my subject area.

I've enjoyed interacting with students and their parents over the years. I've found that with very few exceptions, parents and teachers are on the same side and want what's best for the students. It's a damn shame that the upper reaches of America's education establishment are no longer on that team with us. I've had enough. The silly, counterproductive "blame the teacher" approach currently employed by administrators and legislators has convinced me that I'm the problem. So, once May rolls around, I'm done. I'm outta here without a tiny smidgen of regret.

Hasta la vista, baby.
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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My colleagues don't hate me. My students don't hate me. The state legislature and the federal Dept of Education hate me. Well, them and the loudmouth morons who hate public schools and science in general. But they're simple-minded bozos who are harmless, for the most part.

But the federal and state governments have become malignant to our schools.

I've taught science in large public high schools for 20 years now. Some of my former students have gone on to get PhDs in science from very prestigious universities. I have been tested, certified, fingerprinted, investigated, observed, evaluated and still my classroom methods are suspect and subject to top-down micromanagement by individuals who have next to zero knowledge in my subject area.

I've enjoyed interacting with students and their parents over the years. I've found that with very few exceptions, parents and teachers are on the same side and want what's best for the students. It's a damn shame that the upper reaches of America's education establishment are no longer on that team with us. I've had enough. The silly, counterproductive "blame the teacher" approach currently employed by administrators and legislators has convinced me that I'm the problem. So, once May rolls around, I'm done. I'm outta here without a tiny smidgen of regret.

Hasta la vista, baby.
What are you going to do after teaching?
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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What are you going to do after teaching?
I'm not sure. I'm eligible for a meager retirement and I could live on it, but it would be tight. Right now, even that minimalist lifestyle is preferable to continuing my attempts to teach against the flood of administrivia.
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thought with all the staardized test boycotts and huge push to actively PRIVATIZE public education this is appropriate---

Why America Demonizes its teachers
Because for decades they pushed curriculum change as the reform.
We went from traditional education to what we have today.
Since we've fallen even lower with this curriculum change the new scapegoat is the teachers.
If you think it's bad now, just wait til RTT takes over as that directly attacks teachers holding them and them alone accountable for students passing or failing.

So many older teachers are just counting down til they reach that magic number..."30" and some are fearful they won't make it.
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:38 PM
 
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My experience is that teachers are sort of numbed out and too tired to fight. The battle is constantly uphill and there are quite a few who really don't belong in the profession any longer.

But make no mistake, schools are a "growth opportunity."

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