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Old 03-31-2011, 11:24 PM
 
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The Tesla segment was spot on.

If you drive it hard, the distance you can drive it goes way down quickly. And when it runs out it's a lump of steel until you can spend a few hours charging it up. You can't get around those shortcomings.

Electric cars have been around for over 100 years and they've never caught on for those reasons.
Well, assuming it proves to be relatively reliable, it could easily be a good, fun commuter car. (Cheap power and the batteries should hold most commutes), what really gives it the death knell is the price. There's just no way to justify it.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:05 AM
 
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The crew is opinionated (mostly Jeremy Clarkson), and while ALL of the opinions aren't necessarily valid facts, a good amount are. If they like the car, it's pretty obvious. However, if they don't like the car, they're going to let you know about it. In many episodes they weigh pros and cons as well, either way it's not really a big deal.

Tesla makes themselves look horrible by calling out a lawsuit, instead of simply dismissing the opinions as untrue and maybe providing some facts or "guarantee" to prove their cars are as reliable as they want people to think they are. With that being said, I highly doubt this lawsuit is going to go anywhere.
As Wanneroo said they were driving the car really hard and is could be possible that driving the car under those conditions could cut it's range down to 50 Miles..

What did the EPA come up with on real life mileage figures for the Leaf?

The Nissan Leaf gets a 73-mile range, which is noticeably less than the estimated 100-mile range that Nissan has touted.

2011 Nissan Leaf Gets EPA Mileage Rating - KickingTires

It'll be fun to watch, personally I'd like to see the Top Gear team get exonerated of all charges......
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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"We don't like that Top Gear claims our car has shortcomings, so we'll bring even more publicity to those stated shortcomings by suing them!"

Tesla needs to hire a new PR firm. Or if they have one that knows what they're doing, Tesla needs to heed their advice.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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The crew is opinionated (mostly Jeremy Clarkson)...
Well, he is a journalist "by trade", and not by education. And with no technical or mechanical training, he can only voice his opinion on what he sees and hears- But "WE" can all do that!
Maybe he should smoke more?
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:18 PM
 
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"We don't like that Top Gear claims our car has shortcomings, so we'll bring even more publicity to those stated shortcomings by suing them!"

Tesla needs to hire a new PR firm. Or if they have one that knows what they're doing, Tesla needs to heed their advice.
And what is completely stupid is by dragging up something from 2 years ago, is that now on Top Gear, tesla is going to be the huge butt of jokes to the end of time. They'll be ripping that car endlessly.

As top gear has demonstrated with electric cars and has been known by everyone in the car business for 100 years is that electric cars are a dead end road. Until you can zap a car and recharge it in 5 minutes, in any reasonable place, it is merely a technical oddity. They don't work in the real world for most people.
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Old 04-02-2011, 01:54 AM
 
Location: SW France
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Fans of Top Gear know you don't watch the show to be informed like Fifth Gear or Motorweek. It is an entertaining show and that's why it is so popular.
Exactly.

And it's not told as it is, it's told as how Clarkson thinks which are not always the same.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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The crew is opinionated (mostly Jeremy Clarkson), and while ALL of the opinions aren't necessarily valid facts, a good amount are. If they like the car, it's pretty obvious. However, if they don't like the car, they're going to let you know about it. In many episodes they weigh pros and cons as well, either way it's not really a big deal.

Tesla makes themselves look horrible by calling out a lawsuit, instead of simply dismissing the opinions as untrue and maybe providing some facts or "guarantee" to prove their cars are as reliable as they want people to think they are. With that being said, I highly doubt this lawsuit is going to go anywhere.
I sorta' doubt the lawsuit will go anywhere because Tesla has spent millions of bones on...nothing.

If Tesla does one thing right, it certainly is wasting other peoples money, rather than already having a mass-produced vehicle with the loans they have already taken on.

Cheap pub, if nothing else, because they certainly need all the exposure they can get.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:13 PM
 
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Top Gear fights back:

Transmission – BBC Top Gear Tesla vs Top Gear: Andy Wilman on our current legal action « (Andy Wilman is the Executive Producer of Top Gear)

This article makes Tesla look even worse, for example:

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The second point is that the figure of 55 miles came not from our heads, but from Tesla’s boffins in California. They looked at the data from that car and calculated that, driven hard on our track, it would have a range of 55 miles.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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LOL @ "boffins," the kind of word you'll only find in something like a PR release from Britain.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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