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Electrek, Teslarati and Inside EVs = Tesla propaganda
They are adamant EV proponents with a desperate need to draw ad clicks, and there's just not much exciting news in the field except for Musk's juggling act.
Not much excitement in that GM, for example, has advanced pancake motor efficiency 1% when used in the next-gen hybrid platform.
You kinda skipped over the parallels of comparing Tesla to cult. It’s seriously gonna get all Jonestown when that company goes under.
Why do you post Tesla specific stuff in the general automotive forum?
Actually, there are definitely cult-like aspects.
Unfortunately the guy in the video basically premised his whole idea of Tesla followers being in a cult due to falsely believing those cars reduces greenhouse gases.
Unfortunately the guy in the video basically premised his whole idea of Tesla followers being in a cult due to falsely believing those cars reduces greenhouse gases.
He is wrong.
They're nice enough cars. Very few people (in here or elsewhere) are saying otherwise.
But they're not the Second Coming, except to people who thought their iPhone was the First.
I don't think it is the safest because countless accidents the car battery ignited and burns the occupants. ICE cars catch fire too but you have a higher chance of escaping before the fire reaches the fuel line.
Tesla batteries are directly under the car like a mattress. If it ignites you have less than 5 mins to escape or else the entire car becomes an open flame gas grill.
The biggest difference is the time it takes to ignite. Gasoline fires start almost immediately when gasoline comes in contact with a spark or flame, and spreads rapidly. Battery fires typically take some time to achieve the heat necessary to start the fire.
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They're nice enough cars. Very few people (in here or elsewhere) are saying otherwise.
But they're not the Second Coming, except to people who thought their iPhone was the First.
You have to understand the Tesla cult isn't really about Tesla. It's about the war on polluters / climate change etc... Even if transportation only contributes 20% or so (have to look up what exactly) to pollution, it's a big amount. And energy production pollution adds on top of that.
Tesla is the predominant energy company focused on going to a cleaner future. (BTW even if you think there's only a 10% change that we can affect global temperatures, economic risks would say to go for it). Obviously there are other companies globally, but it is the first to push for EVs that actually look good and work well.
For people who care about those things, surely you could understand why Tesla stands apart from other car manufacturers. Even if someone eventually brings mass EV production - the fact they are dragging their feet, still fighting for lower emission standards for ICE cars - they will not be looked at with the same positivity as Tesla. Too much hypocrisy.
So there is a cult that sees a good/great product, and hypes it up, because it fits their vision of the future.
BTW, in case you have your head in the sand, there is a worldwide massive change to restricting ICE cars in the near future. The EV future as a dominant force in transportation will not be fast, but it is almost guaranteed now.
You have to understand the Tesla cult isn't really about Tesla. It's about the war on polluters / climate change etc...
Oh, BS, and you may read that as spelled out.
Tesla worshippers are all about being something super-exclusive and smarter than everyone else; they're the cool kids and nobody can tell them nothin' different. Under their rose-colored skies, there are no meaningful EVs other than Tesla. Some days, in the bright San Jose sun, there are no cars other than Tesla. Elon Musk makes Steve Jobs and Bill Gates look like surly fossil-fuel drinkers. And so on.
Which overlaps only slightly and incidentally with the much, much larger crowd that's almost as annoying but champions the rise of EVs for general transportation, from all competent makers, with all due and necessary infrastructure development, to improved environmental and macroeconomic ends. (Some even allow that people in Wyoming might still need ICE/Hybrid F-150s. )
You have very clearly established which group you are in.
You have to understand the Tesla cult isn't really about Tesla. It's about the war on polluters / climate change etc... Even if transportation only contributes 20% or so (have to look up what exactly) to pollution, it's a big amount. And energy production pollution adds on top of that.
Tesla is the predominant energy company focused on going to a cleaner future. (BTW even if you think there's only a 10% change that we can affect global temperatures, economic risks would say to go for it). Obviously there are other companies globally, but it is the first to push for EVs that actually look good and work well.
For people who care about those things, surely you could understand why Tesla stands apart from other car manufacturers. Even if someone eventually brings mass EV production - the fact they are dragging their feet, still fighting for lower emission standards for ICE cars - they will not be looked at with the same positivity as Tesla. Too much hypocrisy.
So there is a cult that sees a good/great product, and hypes it up, because it fits their vision of the future.
BTW, in case you have your head in the sand, there is a worldwide massive change to restricting ICE cars in the near future. The EV future as a dominant force in transportation will not be fast, but it is almost guaranteed now.
Tesla might claim to care about CO2 emissions, and the counterintuitive idea of creating a whole new carbon intensive battery industry to correct the problems created by every other industry, but we all know Tesla owners are the most likely to cause global warming.
These are clearly not people who live simple lives in apartments (you need a garage to charge your car). They don’t live close to work (otherwise they wouldn’t need a 300 mile range), and clearly don’t believe in public transportation (they need “Ludacris mode” and obsess about 0-60 times). It’s a way for wealthier people to feel a little less guilty about their carbon intensive lifestyle.
Take Elon himself...lives in a 22k sq ft house (but sleeps in a factory conference room), his hobbies are launching rockets that consume more fossil fuel in an 8 minute launch than most people do in a million miles of driving, and sells flamethrowers as merchandise.
In other words hypocrite. When I see a Tesla owner living off the land, wearing a loin cloth, then we can talk about reducing global warming.
Because if you have a fender bender your insurance is paying $24,000 instead of $2400.
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