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View Poll Results: Which city will make the most dramatic Change in its core?
Dallas 57 24.36%
Houston 103 44.02%
Austin 48 20.51%
San Antonio 26 11.11%
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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he was saying nothing had changed visually in the last 20 years except the bridge.. which is pretty accurate. minus the Omni and the different colors of the already existing lighting, not much has changed.

Nothing has changed??? 20 years ago, Uptown Dallas was filled with small one story buildings. That has obviously changed.

 
Old 11-30-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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To be fair, quite a bit has obviously changed in both cities, depending on where you look.. the boi is just naive to think that its only taking place (or has been happening at a much greater rate) in Dallas than Houston.
 
Old 11-30-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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To be fair, quite a bit has obviously changed in both cities.. the boi is just naive to think that people wouldn't recognize the change in Houston that is literally EVERYWHERE.
You look out over 45 N..and you see a seas of condos, townhouses etc...that was not there 20 yrs ago ,most not even 10 yrs ago,and now mid rise...hell midtown alone is currently building 5 and 3 high rises are in planning stages,that not counting montrose, eado, sam houston Pkwy, etc
 
Old 11-30-2015, 04:09 PM
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Japan Airlines is picking up it's only direct route from Tokyo Narita to D/FW:

Japan Airlines resumes flights from D/FW today
Sheryl Jean
November 30, 2015

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Japan Airlines resumes flying Monday from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Tokyo’s Narita International Airport for the first time in more than 14 years.

The Japanese carrier initially will operate four flights a week but has said it might expand to daily service in the spring. It will fly a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner jet.
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D/FW, the nation’s fourth-busiest airport, sees more than 63 million travelers a year and offers flights to more than 200 destinations, including 57 international cities. Nearly a third of the international destinations were added in the last five years.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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To be fair, quite a bit has obviously changed in both cities, depending on where you look.. the boi is just naive to think that its only taking place (or has been happening at a much greater rate) in Dallas than Houston.
I actually said the amount of building Houston has done cannot be denied. My point is Houston has always had random TALL buildings scattered randomly across the entire city....which makes it harder to NOTICE all of the new stuff. Houston is still randomly throwing them everywhere. ....so nothing looks different.

DALLAS. ...on the other hand has always had zoning and has never been wildly built out.....more rural as Houstonians would say....so all of the stuff we've built in 20 years will definitely be noticeable.

Dallas is like : cutting your grass low before you go out of town for a week. And coming home to tall grass and dandelions every where....very noticeable!

Houston is like: forgetting to cut your grass last week and now you have to rush to Dallas this weekend so you'll cut it when you get back Sunday. So when you leave for Dallas you have tall grass dandelions
And tall weeds everywhere. .....when you get back you have 40 or 50 extra dandelions and taller grass but does it look any different from when you left......no .....not really.
 
Old 11-30-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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You try very hard. I have to give you that.
 
Old 11-30-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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Completely agreed, both cities are going through building booms and we shouldn't overlook either progress. Its just going on much more in Houston. That map is impressive at first glance, but not all of those are U/C (and not all of them are "high rises"), and the area stretches 3 miles outside of downtown. The downtown Houston development map has 19 Residential projects planned or U/C.. almost as many as that entire map you posted, of which you'll note downtown Dallas is just the small portion in the bottom, with only 6 residential projects.

For a better view on citywide building progress (obviously whats taking place in downtown Houston is just a small portion of development in the city).. according to Emporis, Houston has 87 "buildings" U/C, while Dallas has 16. The core of Dallas is definitely progressing nicely.. but practically the entire city of Houston is progressing at as rapid of a pace, if not more.
I think something needs to be made perfectly clear. The cities that surround Dallas like Irving, Richardson, Garland, Plano (Yes even Plano a mature suburb is nothing more than extended Dallas) Grand Prairie are virtually Dallas. It's really no different than Arlington, HEB etc being extended Fort Worth. For you to ignore what's going on in essentially in Dallas County to make Houston a city 600 square miles look superior is utterly ridiculous. Being from Fort Worth I consider anything in Dallas county including Plano to be Dallas, Texas.

Verizon plans huge Irving development with office, residential and retail | | Dallas Morning News

$300 million Garland development will bring homes, apartments and a restaurant | Dallas Morning News

Richardson is getting massive development next door to State Farm | Dallas Morning News

Towers in the works at Plano’s Legacy campus could lure Fannie Mae office | | Dallas Morning News

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne...eas-to-4b.html

Dallas Trinity Trails: Trinity Forest Golf Course Construction Visible in Google Earth

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Old 12-01-2015, 02:31 AM
 
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I think something needs to be made perfectly clear. The cities that surround Dallas like Irving, Richardson, Garland, Plano (Yes even Plano a mature suburb is nothing more than extended Dallas) Grand Prairie are virtually Dallas. It's really no different than Arlington, HEB etc being extended Fort Worth. For you to ignore what's going on in essentially in Dallas County to make Houston a city 600 square miles look superior is utterly ridiculous. Being from Fort Worth I consider anything in Dallas county including Plano to be Dallas, Texas.

Verizon plans huge Irving development with office, residential and retail | | Dallas Morning News

$300 million Garland development will bring homes, apartments and a restaurant | Dallas Morning News

Richardson is getting massive development next door to State Farm | Dallas Morning News

Towers in the works at Plano’s Legacy campus could lure Fannie Mae office | | Dallas Morning News

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne...eas-to-4b.html

Dallas Trinity Trails: Trinity Forest Golf Course Construction Visible in Google Earth
Are we really going to start to pull in surrounding areas now because history has shown just how out of hand that can get.
 
Old 12-01-2015, 03:05 AM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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I think something needs to be made perfectly clear. The cities that surround Dallas like Irving, Richardson, Garland, Plano (Yes even Plano a mature suburb is nothing more than extended Dallas) Grand Prairie are virtually Dallas. It's really no different than Arlington, HEB etc being extended Fort Worth. For you to ignore what's going on in essentially in Dallas County to make Houston a city 600 square miles look superior is utterly ridiculous. Being from Fort Worth I consider anything in Dallas county including Plano to be Dallas, Texas.

Verizon plans huge Irving development with office, residential and retail | | Dallas Morning News

$300 million Garland development will bring homes, apartments and a restaurant | Dallas Morning News

Richardson is getting massive development next door to State Farm | Dallas Morning News

Towers in the works at Plano’s Legacy campus could lure Fannie Mae office | | Dallas Morning News

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne...eas-to-4b.html

Dallas Trinity Trails: Trinity Forest Golf Course Construction Visible in Google Earth
Whats not clear..? You act as if there isn't massive development taking place outside the core/city of Houston... Houston is the one without zoning after all.

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I actually said the amount of building Houston has done cannot be denied. My point is Houston has always had random TALL buildings scattered randomly across the entire city....which makes it harder to NOTICE all of the new stuff. Houston is still randomly throwing them everywhere. ....so nothing looks different.

DALLAS. ...on the other hand has always had zoning and has never been wildly built out.....more rural as Houstonians would say....so all of the stuff we've built in 20 years will definitely be noticeable.

Dallas is like : cutting your grass low before you go out of town for a week. And coming home to tall grass and dandelions every where....very noticeable!

Houston is like: forgetting to cut your grass last week and now you have to rush to Dallas this weekend so you'll cut it when you get back Sunday. So when you leave for Dallas you have tall grass dandelions
And tall weeds everywhere. .....when you get back you have 40 or 50 extra dandelions and taller grass but does it look any different from when you left......no .....not really.
So you and kdogg dont seem to see eye to eye on this.. according to him there is a lot of development activity outside of Dallas. But according to you everything is taking place in the core and will be super noticeable with one quick glance. Which one is it..? Last i checked Dallas hasn't added any tall buildings since the 1980s.. so I'm not sure what dandelions you are talking about that supposably sprouted up everywhere. A patch of weeds sprouted up on the north side of Woodall Rodgers, but Houston is the one that has had dandelions sprouting up "everywhere".. you even said so yourself in the first paragraph..
 
Old 12-01-2015, 04:44 AM
 
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Whats not clear..? You act as if there isn't massive development taking place outside the core/city of Houston... Houston is the one without zoning after all.



So you and kdogg dont seem to see eye to eye on this.. according to him there is a lot of development activity outside of Dallas. But according to you everything is taking place in the core and will be super noticeable with one quick glance. Which one is it..? Last i checked Dallas hasn't added any tall buildings since the 1980s.. so I'm not sure what dandelions you are talking about that supposably sprouted up everywhere. A patch of weeds sprouted up on the north side of Woodall Rodgers, but Houston is the one that has had dandelions sprouting up "everywhere".. you even said so yourself in the first paragraph..
Dallas for once is doing the right thing in it's core. They are working with what they have. Buildings don't make a city great. What makes a city great is walkability, bike lanes, transit oriented development etc. Dallas is concerned about getting there second downtown Dallas light rail line up and running, making victory park more attractive to the average Joe and saving there 240 million dollar first national bank redevelopment plan from bankruptcy that is suppose spear head downtown Dallas development and growth. In reality Dallas is taking a page out of Fort Worth playbook. I consider the 42 story Museum tower a downtown Dallas skyscraper. There are also mid rises being built around the building.
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