Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott both continue to pull ahead as election day gets closer

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

It was expensive because insurance inserted themselves as needless middlemen who jacked up the prices, and now they have themselves enshrined into law. It’s not because you unwisely didn’t have insurance the same time as some immigrant families scrubbing toilets for $7/hour.

OK, whatever you say. I was there and I have no clue as to if they were immigrant families scrubbing toilets for $7/hour but since you say so . . . They could have been born in Fort Worth for all I know with the guys knocking down good money in whatever job they did have. I know they did not choose to speak English and they were not required to show any I.D.

As to the reason at the time I did not 'wisely' have insurance I did not go into and I don't regard it as anyone else's business. I don't mind paying for services I receive, but I do want it to be fair. Insurance companies have done a number on the costs of things, but that is widely acknowledged. I was not naive when I asked the doctor the question, I just wanted to make my point.

I unwisely used a personal experience as a point because I was exchanging viewpoints with a civil poster and actually enjoying the exchange of views on this board for once.

Time to exit.

[Westerner92]

Originally Posted by lonestar2007

OK, whatever you say. I was there and I have no clue as to if they were immigrant families scrubbing toilets for $7/hour but since you say so . . . They could have been born in Fort Worth for all I know with the guys knocking down good money in whatever job they did have. I know they did not choose to speak English and they were not required to show any I.D.

As to the reason at the time I did not 'wisely' have insurance I did not go into and I don't regard it as anyone else's business. I don't mind paying for services I receive, but I do want it to be fair. Insurance companies have done a number on the costs of things, but that is widely acknowledged. I was not naive when I asked the doctor the question, I just wanted to make my point.

I unwisely used a personal experience as a point because I was exchanging viewpoints with a civil poster and actually enjoying the exchange of views on this board for once.

Time to exit.

I’m just saying, assuming you and/or your daughter have received healthcare in the last 20-30 years, the prices shouldn’t have come as a shock. The $7/hour thing is the deduction where I take your word seriously about their inability to speak English and their $0 bill, because the only way that would be the case would be at a public hospital with a sliding pay scale. Otherwise, it just sounds like a story from one of those right wing spam emails my great aunt sends me.

But rather than look to greed from the insurance industry, the hospital’s pricing scheme, or your own financial missteps, you chose to make assumptions about and blame people speaking a different language.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

But rather than look to greed from the insurance industry, the hospital’s pricing scheme, or your own financial missteps, you chose to make assumptions about and blame people speaking a different language.

This 100%! My wife works in the medical industry and the current state is sickening. She vents about it constantly. The ridiculous greed from the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the hospitals is staggering.

Blaming people who speak a different language is just a convenient excuse. Its just the narrative trying to be taught.

[MarshaBrady1968]

Originally Posted by Kthnry

Can we have a reference for this statistic, please?

Not a hard fact, but more of a compilation of the following data (and much more- actually have my Masters in Sports Medicine so have studies this kind of stuff a lot). There is a significant piece of ER visits which are attributed to mental health, which I did not touch on, but which my daughter has suffered from her entire life. Just trying to find help for her - and I am sure many reading this have also experienced - it becomes obvious what a gaping hole we have in this country when it comes to mental health. I won't be talking further about that- too emotional for me.

BTW - My entire family on both maternal and paternal sides, are either fat, or obese, but I am not. Regardless of the genetic component, it can be thwarted. The biggest problem is the quality of food in this country, and cultural dogma around food, and lack of exercise. Lonestar alluded to kids not knowing any better and how there is no clear solution; but also westerner talked about more PE in schools (obviously I agree with that - see my chosen degree plan), bearing in mind PE = physical EDUCATION. The physical part is very important, but how about kids also being TAUGHT what happens with food on a chemical level to change your body? That won't happen because we have completely ruined our food by putting stuff in it so that it can grow bigger, better, faster, more and all for MONEY

(I'm getting myself angry....better stop here....)


https://www.health24.com/Lifestyle/H...table-20170919

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4111009/

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/causes.html

https://stateofobesity.org/healthcare-costs-obesity/

https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/data_stati...rt_disease.htm

https://www.heritage.org/health-care...at-can-be-done

https://health.usnews.com/health-new...he-er-for-care