Texas being excluded from the South (Houston, Dallas: hotel, climate, Asian)

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

How much of Texas have you actually seen? Not UTube or Wiki.

This is the same poster who said Raleigh and most of North Carolina is not southern.

That poster is probably someone in China who has never been to the United States.

He makes sweeping generalizations based on geography rather than actual population. Fir example he divided Texas equally by area and then state that only 1/5 is associated with the South.

Texas has 30M people and most of that is in the eastern half so you can't divide Texas like a pie and say only this pie is associated with the South.

What is southern anyway?

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

This is the same poster who said Raleigh and most of North Carolina is not southern.

That poster is probably someone in China who has never been to the United States.

He makes sweeping generalizations based on geography rather than actual population. Fir example he divided Texas equally by area and then state that only 1/5 is associated with the South.

Texas has 30M people and most of that is in the eastern half so you can't divide Texas like a pie and say only this pie is associated with the South.

What is southern anyway?

I’m in Raleigh right now and…. LMAO!!!! This place screams southern

I’ll say this once again. Only people in the south try to deny the region they live in. Only in the south. And more specifically, white people in the south. “We’re not southern, Texan”. “Austin is more like California”. You never hear Seattle deny they’re in the west just because they’re different from California. You never hear rural upstate NY claim they aren’t northeastern just because they’re not like the stereotypical urban northeast. Only southerners deny the region they live in.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

Confederate flags? You got to visit the boonies or small hick towns to see those

And I've seen a lot more in other states than in Texas. Including outside the south.

[Dopo]

Here's a map of East Texas
which is the area of Texas that can be considered culturally Southern

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

And I've seen a lot more in other states than in Texas. Including outside the south.

Yes ma'am. It is one aspect of being southern but it's but a small aspect now.

This post from one of TexasReb's thread sums tge South perfectly:

Originally Posted by smel

The South is like an elegant lady with her working boots under her evening gown. She is not just moonlight, camellias, and bourbon. She is also fishing in the creek with a cane pole, going barefoot in mud puddles, and fried chicken. She is cotillions at the country club, polo at the point, yachting on Mobile Bay, antebellum homes, and sorority balls. She is big pickup trucks with super swamper tires, jars full of lightning bugs, crabbing in the Gulf, floundering off the pier, and horse back riding through the cove. The South cannot be summed up in a few words or by one state. The South is a very vibrant region that changes like the wind. The one thing I think all Southerners have in common is our deep love for our home.

I miss Reb.

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

I’m in Raleigh right now and…. LMAO!!!! This place screams southern

I’ll say this once again. Only people in the south try to deny the region they live in. Only in the south. And more specifically, white people in the south. “We’re not southern, Texan”. “Austin is more like California”. You never hear Seattle deny they’re in the west just because they’re different from California. You never hear rural upstate NY claim they aren’t northeastern just because they’re not like the stereotypical urban northeast. Only southerners deny the region they live in.

Right!!! Dunno why Southerners love to disqualify areas of itself so much. Raleigh is one of those pillar southern cities

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

Yes ma'am. It is one aspect of being southern but it's but a small aspect now.

This post from one of TexasReb's thread sums tge South perfectly:



I miss Reb.



Right!!! Dunno why Southerners love to disqualify areas of itself so much. Raleigh is one of those pillar southern cities

I miss Reb too. He and I agreed on most things but not everything. I miss his banter and his wit.

And I agree that Raleigh is a pillar of the south!

I'm glad I live and was born in the south. And I'm a white lady - LOL.

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

I miss Reb too. He and I agreed on most things but not everything. I miss his banter and his wit.

And I agree that Raleigh is a pillar of the south!

I'm glad I live and was born in the south. And I'm a white lady - LOL.

I am proud to be a southerner too and I am a mutt.
There are aspect of our history that I am not proud of, but that was a long time ago and that is no longer us

Today's south is dynamic, it has rich culture and is multicultural.

With all its flaws , I love Texas too. It's my chosen state and I miss it when I am away. Although I wasn't born here, it is my chosen state and that is where I say I am from.

I am southern, I am Texan. People say we are prideful, but what sort of person doesn't have pride for where they are from?

And Yes, Reb was a major voice of reason on here and his wealth of knowledge added a lot to these forums.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Here's a map of East Texas
which is the area of Texas that can be considered culturally Southern

Here’s a more accurate map of the parts of Texas that are southern.

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Here’s a more accurate map of the parts of Texas that are southern.

That's a better map but Alamo shouldn't extend to the Gulf. Matagorda Bay should definitely be with Gulf Coast.
Victoria County too. Corpus is more associated with San Antonio, but Victoria is one of Houston’s step kids.

Washington County should not be with Central Texas. the Brenham area is more along the lines of the Houston area. The Texas Original Settlement stretched from the Trinity River area to the Lavaca River area and that entire area is really similar. Brenham is another Houston step child.

Nacogdoches and Lufkin are Houston's first cousins and Beaumont and Houston are just brothers from different mamas.

I am of the opinion that Texas as a state is southern, but for the separatists, I would say that the areas East of the Lavaca/ lower Colorado river areas are the most southern. Not very much variation between the Lavaca River and the Mississippi River. That entire area should be in the same region.

I prefer this map: https://www.dps.texas.gov/sites/defa...112a/mapLg.jpg

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

That's a better map but Alamo shouldn't extend to the Gulf. Matagorda Bay should definitely be with Gulf Coast.
Victoria County too. Corpus is more associated with San Antonio, but Victoria is one of Houston’s step kids.

Washington County should not be with Central Texas. the Brenham area is more along the lines of the Houston area. The Texas Original Settlement stretched from the Trinity River area to the Lavaca River area and that entire area is really similar. Brenham is another Houston step child.

Nacogdoches and Lufkin are Houston's first cousins and Beaumont and Houston are just brothers from different mamas.

I am of the opinion that Texas as a state is southern, but for the separatists, I would say that the areas East of the Lavaca/ lower Colorado river areas are the most southern. Not very much variation between the Lavaca River and the Mississippi River. That entire area should be in the same region.

I prefer this map: https://www.dps.texas.gov/sites/defa...112a/mapLg.jpg

I was half trolling. While not trolling about that being a better map than Dopo’s. In reality, I view El Paso as were the west fully begins. Places like Midland in west Texas are a sort of hybrid of south and west. The entire triangle south. Even down to South Texas imo