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Old 11-26-2019, 02:48 AM
 
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Only 1 is in the Houston area, Houston.
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Old 11-26-2019, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Default 9 of 17?

Why did you pick such an odd statistic? 9 of 17? Why not 9 of 20? Why not 17 of the top 50? Or 26 of the top 100?
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Daleville, VA
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Why did you pick such an odd statistic? 9 of 17? Why not 9 of 20? Why not 17 of the top 50? Or 26 of the top 100?
I guess because 15, 16 and 17 are in and 18, 19 and 20 are not!

But seriously it is probably because of two things - the relatively small portion of Dallas County that falls within the city of Dallas, along with the infill between D and FW.

OOPS UPDATE: Well I looked at the numbers and if you add Dallas County and Tarrant County - the population is roughly similar to Harris County. Then if you add the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth - the population is almost as large as the city of Houston.

So maybe a big factor is that there are some pretty large population areas of Houston never developed into incorporated cities while those in DFW did. Like if Katy ISD were a city. Or the same with Klein ISD or Cy-Fair ISD.

Last edited by Watchful; 11-26-2019 at 04:40 AM.. Reason: added info
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Because that part of Texas was developed like California... A continuous sprawl of many cities
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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Because Houston, for decades, AGGRESSIVELY annexed as much land allowable each year per state law to prevent the likelihood of any city being ABLE to incorporate next to Houston, IMHO.

Before I moved to Houston, and while I lived there for over 20 years this happened. Now, sure I don't know if Houston annexed every year, but it seemed to be the plan. Possibly Houston leaders saw what happened to Dallas, being practically landlocked and desired to prevent that from occurring to Houston, IMHO.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Because that part of Texas was developed like California... A continuous sprawl of many cities
Houston is developed in the exact same way from an urban land use perspective, it's just the local politics that are different in so far as suburb's boundaries go.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Only 1 is in the Houston area, Houston.
This is the same question as "Why does Dallas have lots of large to very large suburbs while Houston has only 2-3 large ones"

It has been discussed in depth already.
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Because Houston, for decades, AGGRESSIVELY annexed as much land allowable each year per state law to prevent the likelihood of any city being ABLE to incorporate next to Houston, IMHO.

Before I moved to Houston, and while I lived there for over 20 years this happened. Now, sure I don't know if Houston annexed every year, but it seemed to be the plan. Possibly Houston leaders saw what happened to Dallas, being practically landlocked and desired to prevent that from occurring to Houston, IMHO.
I think Houston was looking more at cities in the upper Midwest and northeast that allowed suburban cities to completely encompass them and took steps along with the state to prevent that from happening.

Now people are complaining that Houston doesn't have enough suburban cities to chose from. I personally would like to see some small suburban cities form in Harris County, perhaps along the 1960 corridor. However those people along with people in the Woodlands have consistently voted not to incorporate, something about not wanting to pay municipal taxes along with County, and school property taxes...
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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I think Houston was looking more at cities in the upper Midwest and northeast that allowed suburban cities to completely encompass them and took steps along with the state to prevent that from happening.

Now people are complaining that Houston doesn't have enough suburban cities to chose from. I personally would like to see some small suburban cities form in Harris County, perhaps along the 1960 corridor. However those people along with people in the Woodlands have consistently voted not to incorporate, something about not wanting to pay municipal taxes along with County, and school property taxes...
For the most part, there isn't really a difference....a suburban subdivision in a suburb or unincorporated are both going to look and feel the same.

The real difference as I see it, is by incorporating you have a political structure...and I think that is why Plano, Frisco, etc are able to put together bids for relocations. They have bureaucracy and money to make those things happen.
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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For the most part, there isn't really a difference....a suburban subdivision in a suburb or unincorporated are both going to look and feel the same.

The real difference as I see it, is by incorporating you have a political structure...and I think that is why Plano, Frisco, etc are able to put together bids for relocations. They have bureaucracy and money to make those things happen.
Agreed , HOA's have a lot of power over the aesthetics of neighborhoods that have one. But I also think those people in Plano, and Frisco like having their own Police and Fire departments as well. Of course that cost usually will result in higher property or sales taxes....
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