Ercot Power Outage or Blackout in North Texas (taxes, living)

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Aren't you an engineer..........where are the facts?

Texas Calls for Power Conservation After Six Generators Fail - May 13, 2022
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...er-plants-fail


The Texas grid operator called on residents to conserve energy Friday after six generation facilities tripped offline amid hot weather, prompting power prices to spike.

The power-plant failures resulted in a loss of about 2,900 megawatts of electricity, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas said in an email statement Friday. That’s enough power for about 580,000 homes and businesses. Natural-gas fired plants make up all of the generation that failed, an Ercot spokesman said.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Texas Calls for Power Conservation After Six Generators Fail - May 13, 2022
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...er-plants-fail


The Texas grid operator called on residents to conserve energy Friday after six generation facilities tripped offline amid hot weather, prompting power prices to spike.

The power-plant failures resulted in a loss of about 2,900 megawatts of electricity, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas said in an email statement Friday. That’s enough power for about 580,000 homes and businesses. Natural-gas fired plants make up all of the generation that failed, an Ercot spokesman said.

Yeah but that != no reserve capacity, nor does it mean that this was the reason the OP lost power. Sure, you can speculate but there is no evidence of such which means, you are jumping into conclusions.

More likely the OP experienced a localized outage. Also, I've stated this before and I will state again, Texas is not the only state that is prone to power failures amid heat waves. That has little to do with our isolated grid and more to do with increased demand during high temperatures.. ..if an temperature increases 10*F over the average temperature for a specific period of time, in a state of almost 30 million people, that adds significant load in a period where many of our plants are scheduled for routine maintenance (in preparation for summer). Yes, Texas does regularly see 105*F, that is not abnormal to TX, however; it happened earlier than the average heat spike.. ..during a period when they are normally taking plants down for maintenance.

[rynetwo]

A lot of grids call for conservation.

3 weeks into this 100 degree weather and no brownouts. What is the point of this thread?

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by rynetwo

A lot of grids call for conservation.

3 weeks into this 100 degree weather and no brownouts. What is the point of this thread?

It's significantly political.

[KathrynAragon]

So far so good over here in NE Texas, with temps near or over 100 (real temps, not "feels like" temps) every day as far as the forecast goes.

[Need4Camaro]

My garage feels like its from another world right now. I have 4 freezer units running in there and my car's hot engine/exhaust behind the closed door with already hot weather out there...could probably air-fry a steak in there.

[Need4Camaro]

Now regarding the national grid…

https://www.lincolncourier.com/story...ts/7690341001/

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Now regarding the national grid…

https://www.lincolncourier.com/story...ts/7690341001/

I lived in Missouri 15 years and power NEVER went out during winter

[Pilsn3r]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Now regarding the national grid…

https://www.lincolncourier.com/story...ts/7690341001/

There is no national grid. The article is about the Illinois - which does not represent the non-existent national grid or even the midwest/midcontinent grid which Illinois is part of.

If wanting to point out worse electric transmission companies compared to the ones in Texas, then PG&E would have been a much better choice than Illinois'. I believe that company has caused more deaths overall than other electric transmission companies.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by Dopo

I lived in Missouri 15 years and power NEVER went out during winter

I won't deny that winterization would have saved Texas from what happened, as obviously MO is regulated and see's these kinds of temperatures much more regularly than Texas does.. ..but the picture that joining the national grid = all our power problems are resolved is very misleading.

Originally Posted by Pilsn3r

There is no national grid. The article is about the Illinois - which does not represent the non-existent national grid or even the midwest/midcontinent grid which Illinois is part of.

If wanting to point out worse electric transmission companies compared to the ones in Texas, then PG&E would have been a much better choice than Illinois'. I believe that company has caused more deaths overall than other electric transmission companies.

Obviously given Lincoln Courier is an Illinois based newspaper, their focus will be the state of Illinois.

Rolling blackouts or brownouts typically associated with Western states may be necessary in Illinois and other Midwest states in the Midcontinent Independent System Operator (MISO) footprint. MISO is the regional electric grid operator that oversees power in 15 states, including the southern two-thirds of Illinois.

The article clearly cites up to 15 states which is a large chunk of the Eastern Interconnect... Infact the article even goes as far to show that some of these states (including Illinois) are at greater risk than ERCOT.



Also, Illinois is the last place of any state that should be seeing outages during a heatwave. Most of their power is Nuclear which is the among the more tolerant to environmental circumstances.

Here is another article showing that Texas is not the only at risk state for this summer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...s-summer-heat/

A large swath of the Midwest that has enjoyed stable electricity for decades is now wrestling with forecasts that it lacks the power needed to get through a heat wave. The regional grid is short the amount of energy needed to power 3.7 million homes.
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While America’s power grid has been showing signs of distress for years, the sudden warnings have surprised even those who were sounding an alarm. That’s because extreme weather precipitated by climate change and the early retirement of fossil fuel plants has accelerated the destabilization of the grid — a fragile collection of transfer stations and transmission lines already challenged by a lack of investment.

and another still...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...-last-00034858

In the Midwest, early coal plant retirements and a lack of replacement power threaten to create a precarious gap between supply and demand as temperatures rise going into June. And aging coal and gas-fired plants across the West risk being forced to reduce their output or shut down entirely as extreme heat and drought conditions threaten their access to water and disrupt required maintenance.

The situation has unnerved energy experts, who caution an unstable grid could set back plans to move rapidly toward a climate-friendlier economy. The plans rely heavily on most of the nation shifting to electric vehicles and plug-in home appliances such as stoves and water heaters, which will increase demands on the power system.