08-21-2009, 11:35 AM
Location: New London County, CT
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I am really failing to see the point and validity of this post...
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hsw
IIRC, ~40% of Harvard's Class of '09 was unemployed at graduation...a testimonial to the irrelevance of a lib arts degree, even from a prestigious college, in a challenging economy
This doesn't ring true. And Harvard offers loads of pre-professional degrees and more career focused degrees. Computer science, pre law, pre med, along with divinity and public health are all offered. Liberal arts degrees teach people to analyze, think and be critical. (I know Texans don't value critical thinking if our schools are any inidication...)
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hsw
Smartest kids from Harvard or Wharton flee upon graduation to NYC or SiliconValley
Flee...? Are you just making this up? Who's tracking the "smartest" kids from Harvard.. How do we know who they are... Weird, baseless commentary.
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hsw
U-IL is one of world's top 3-4 engineering schools for Computer Science, yet nearly all its top grads are in Silicon Valley, not in Chicago or in Midwest
How do you know where the 'top' grads are.. again, Are you making this up or do you have some source... But the way it's called SILICON Valley. Have you considered that that's where there are an abundance of technical jobs...
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Originally Posted by
hsw
Smart, ambitious, entrepreneurial kids figure this stuff out on own, even while at mediocre public suburban elementary/middle schools; at middle-income family dinner tables (learning from parents' career mistakes/successes); and migrate to most relevant college opportunities, despite lame high schools...after all, any hungry kid can self-teach much via self-created "curriculum" in a Net/Kindle world
So that's where we're going... Smart kids will learn it anyway so screw everyone else? Just give a kid a Kindle... Saves you a bunch in taxes! I think we owe are kids much better than that!
08-21-2009, 12:43 PM
Location: San Diego, CA
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I agree w/ the OP. Texas really needs to invest more in providing more and better educational opportunities, especially in science and engineering.
I am a UT alum who moved to California for work in the biotech field. I would have preferred staying in TX, but CA has many more opportunities in this industry than TX. The public universities in CA are excellent, and there are ample opportunities for students to gain work experience with local sci/tech companies via internships (maybe not so many now due to the recession). That California has so many innovative companies (e.g. Google, Yahoo, Genentech) shows that investing in higher education pays off from an economics standpoint.
TX already has a thriving economy, but to keep it growing and competitive with other global economic powerhouses, it must invest in the science and engineering disciplines. However, money alone is insufficient; IMHO this will require a [cultural] shift in priorities since I feel that most Texans don't value education enough.
Just my 2 cents
08-21-2009, 01:57 PM
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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We also have to remember who does the rankings. Liberals. Do you think a bunch of liberals are ever going to rank schools in backwards, steer screwing, gun-totin' Texas better than schools in California? And for all of you that don't know me, I'm a liberal myself.
I don't think that is quite accurate, given that VA, NC, and GA are all represented in the top 10.
Glad to see UNC-CH on there. Considering going back to school there.
08-21-2009, 01:58 PM
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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Dont' matter. As long as you have a degree, the world is yours.
Not really.
08-21-2009, 02:08 PM
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I don't think that is quite accurate, given that VA, NC, and GA are all represented in the top 10.
You don't think limo libs and the so called liberal elite dislike Texas more than VA, NC and GA? A lot of them would rather we disappeared into the Gulf of Mexico.
08-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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I really don't think they care as much as many Texans want to believe they do.
08-21-2009, 02:19 PM
Location: New London County, CT
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So it's not that Texas schools are inferior-- it's that theres a liberal conspiracy to to make the schools SEEM inferior to satisfy the whims of "Limousine" liberals?
08-21-2009, 02:22 PM
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That's a big fat lie. Nothing competes with other state colleges. Texas colleges seem to over focus on sports and football. Although the smaller colleges that focus more on academics than sports are probably the best.
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Texas universities are pretty much underrated if anything.
08-21-2009, 02:24 PM
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That sounds like BS to me. California colleges are as liberal as Richard Simmon's shorts.
Texas colleges are more about sports!
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mlassoff
So it's not that Texas schools are inferior-- it's that theres a liberal conspiracy to to make the schools SEEM inferior to satisfy the whims of "Limousine" liberals?
08-21-2009, 02:35 PM
Location: Texas
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Yeah, well at least them Longhorns have a shot at a national title this year. That's what really matters
Gotta keep those priorities straight!
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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