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Actually the last one is November 22, 1963 and I could swear one of those in the crowd on the left is my late Daddy - he worked at the Magnolia/Mobil building and saw the parade.
10-23-2010, 11:00 AM
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If its not better than dt Austin(which is highly overrated imo) Than its not better than DTD...Ft.Worth,Austin and San antonio are all nice cities in their own right...But they are all overrated...its all hype....I cant think of anything SPECTACULAR about 6th street Austin or the riverwalk or Sundance square.....But I guess since there's hardly anything else going on in those cities all of the locals and tourist seem to overrate wat little thats there...Houston and Dallas have the REAL Downtowns with the REAL potential.......of course all of the smaller cities will run away with the claim of having a better ANYTHING over the big boys so maybe thats the other reason for all of the myths and overrating that been going on......Get Real people......Dallas and Houston shouldn't even be compared to the other three...Just MY OPINION
What a fine bit of nonzsense this is. A simple test for you: go downtown at 730pm in the evening and see how many people are there. That will put to rest any nonsense about Houston and Dallas downtowns. If there aren't any people there, the buildings might just as well be tombstones in a graveyard. End of story.
10-23-2010, 06:58 PM
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What a fine bit of nonzsense this is. A simple test for you: go downtown at 730pm in the evening and see how many people are there. That will put to rest any nonsense about Houston and Dallas downtowns. If there aren't any people there, the buildings might just as well be tombstones in a graveyard. End of story.
Oh get real...DTD is still buzzing at 7:30 in the evening..Im downtown every evening at that tme waiting on my train......
10-23-2010, 07:20 PM
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Oh get real...DTD is still buzzing at 7:30 in the evening..Im downtown every evening at that tme waiting on my train......
Getting real, not sure what your definition of buzz is, but it sure doesn't have a good critical mass. I was in Dallas earlier this month. I was there in downtown on a beautiful 75 degree Saturday afternoon. It was dead and uninspiring. DTD has a very long way to go if it wants to make a real transition from the vertical office park/convention center that it is, sans the little things like surf & turf, pizza joints, and the light rail. Downtown Dallas has very good bones and certainly a lot of potential, but it still lacks critical mass. It's a sleeper. With that said projects like the Trinity River Project and WR Freeway lid will improve it, and hopefully more retailers will show up. DTD will likely get better, but for now it sucks.
I drove over to Fort Worth and there was all kinds of activities going on and more pedestrians in the streets. Likewise Austin and San Antonio has more going on downtown. Downtown San Antonio albeit touristy, which is not a bad thing was very inviting. Dallas not so much, didn't really feel I was in an atmosphere until I reached Knox/Henderson and Greenville. Never been to Houston, so I can't comment.
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Getting real, not sure what your definition of buzz is, but it sure doesn't have a good critical mass. I was in Dallas earlier this month. I was there in downtown on a beautiful 75 degree Saturday afternoon. It was dead and uninspiring. DTD has a very long way to go if it wants to make a real transition from the vertical office park/convention center that it is, sans the little things like surf & turf, pizza joints, and the light rail. Downtown Dallas has very good bones and certainly a lot of potential, but it still lacks critical mass. It's a sleeper. With that said projects like the Trinity River Project and WR Freeway lid will improve it, and hopefully more retailers will show up. DTD will likely get better, but for now it sucks.
I agree with this. For the 4th largest MSA in the U.S., downtown Dallas is as lame as it gets. There is more going on in downtown Dubuque at night. There are lively pedestrian spaces in Dallas - Lower Greenville, Knox-Henderson, parts of Uptown, Oaklawn - and Deep Ellum used to be fun, but downtown not so much. The same is true for downtown Houston. The only residentially viable downtowns in TX are San Antonio and Austin. Downtown Forth Worth, while nice, is still essentially an entertainment district like downtown Austin was a decade ago. The infrastructure in downtown Dallas is there , but no-one seems to want to use it.
10-23-2010, 08:29 PM
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I agree with this. For the 4th largest MSA in the U.S., downtown Dallas is as lame as it gets. There is more going on in downtown Dubuque at night. There are lively pedestrian spaces in Dallas - Lower Greenville, Knox-Henderson, parts of Uptown, Oaklawn - and Deep Ellum used to be fun, but downtown not so much. The same is true for downtown Houston. The only residentially viable downtowns in TX are San Antonio and Austin. Downtown Forth Worth, while nice, is still essentially an entertainment district like downtown Austin was a decade ago. The infrastructure in downtown Dallas is there , but no-one seems to want to use it.
Just Like FW dt SA is essentially an entertainment district as well. The dt is really small so you may be in a residential neighborhood before you know it, but the dt part of town is all entertainment
10-23-2010, 08:47 PM
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Just Like FW dt SA is essentially an entertainment district as well. The dt is really small so you may be in a residential neighborhood before you know it, but the dt part of town is all entertainment
It may feel like that, but 20K plus people live in downtown San Antonio - many of those art deco high rises are residential - that's about 4X the amount of people who live in downtown Dallas or Houston. I don't think the results of the 2010 census are going to change that ratio in a meaningful way.
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Dallas has excellent public events and block parties in various areas other than Knox/Henderson or "downtown." There is Deep Ellum and there is Cedar Springs Road. There is Addison Circle. There is Beltline Road in Addison. There is dragon street and glass street if you want to attend a myriad of art parties. There is the enormous arts district. There is victory park. There is the Bishop Arts District. There is little Mexico vibe where Club Escapade and DMX are located. Dallas has far more variety than any other Texas city although it is not all blobbed together into one downtown section. However, you do have to drive around town a little. It's probably a 5 mile radius at most. No big deal. You will still get to see at the least the skyscrapers. But it also helps reduce traffic blockage and claustrophobic crowding. Which is what you will find every single weekend in Austin on 4th, 5th, and 6th streets. And all three of those streets offer the exact same style of clubs and restaurants.
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Getting real, not sure what your definition of buzz is, but it sure doesn't have a good critical mass. I was in Dallas earlier this month. I was there in downtown on a beautiful 75 degree Saturday afternoon. It was dead and uninspiring. DTD has a very long way to go if it wants to make a real transition from the vertical office park/convention center that it is, sans the little things like surf & turf, pizza joints, and the light rail. Downtown Dallas has very good bones and certainly a lot of potential, but it still lacks critical mass. It's a sleeper. With that said projects like the Trinity River Project and WR Freeway lid will improve it, and hopefully more retailers will show up. DTD will likely get better, but for now it sucks.
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10-23-2010, 08:50 PM
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It may feel like that, but 20K plus people live in downtown San Antonio - many of those art deco high rises are residential - that's about 4X the amount of people who live in downtown Dallas or Houston. I don't think the results of the 2010 census are going to change that ratio in a meaningful way.
last I checked about 18-19K people lived dt Houston. not quite 4 times dude.
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I don't think you are aware of the events and nightlife venues in Dallas. And uptown is practically in the downtown vicinity of Dallas. You will not miss out on the skyscrapers at all. Dallas has various places to party at. And the entire time you will feel as if you are in downtown. And thankfully it is not all sequestered into one downtown area. The traffic would be terrible.
Deep Ellum has had its ups and downs. But it's still there hosting concerts and block parties for its dedicated market segment. Nightclubs such as The Lizard Lounge and Purgatory are going strong.
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I agree with this. For the 4th largest MSA in the U.S., downtown Dallas is as lame as it gets. There is more going on in downtown Dubuque at night. There are lively pedestrian spaces in Dallas - Lower Greenville, Knox-Henderson, parts of Uptown, Oaklawn - and Deep Ellum used to be fun, but downtown not so much. The same is true for downtown Houston. The only residentially viable downtowns in TX are San Antonio and Austin. Downtown Forth Worth, while nice, is still essentially an entertainment district like downtown Austin was a decade ago. The infrastructure in downtown Dallas is there , but no-one seems to want to use it.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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