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To all the Olympic naysayers - here are the fireworks launched from the CN Tower at the finale of the Pan Am closing ceremonies for a bit of inspiration
In red Botti i'm not too sure about that.. We'll see but I think the Pan Am games could have been a catalyst to get the public support needed. A lot of people I know have in one way or another taken part in the games and enjoyed what they engaged in - A lot of 905's supported these games too! It was a rough start with the media especially having its hand in negative publicity but once the people in the city got into things, it really has taken a positive turn.
Don't forget, Toronto has already put in bids before for the Summer Olympics and although wasn't successful could have very well been so and would have had no choice but to follow through. I think if the city gets awarded the Olympics, the people of the city/region will get behind them more than those who don't. You'll always get the naysayers anywhere and like anywhere the naysayers are always the LOUDEST.... even if they are a minority.
I do notice that the comments under the Olympic related news articles are predominantly negative (like 95% of them), and everyone is like "No, thank you". I don't know if that really represents the general attitude towards the matter or because the naysayers are the loudest.
Although I am fully supportive of another bidding, the cost is indeed a concern for the city. Toronto doesn't have a stadium large enough for the Olympic events as far as I know so there is a lot of uncertainties in that and if the city does decide to go ahead and is successful, it needs to find a more smarter and non-traditional way to fund the project.
I will be happy with either. However, I found a lot of argument for the bidding which says it will improve infrastructure projects rather weird. So Toronto has degraded to such a level where we can't build anything needed unless there is a giant 3 week sports game to take place? Are we supposed to build transits and improve public space for its residents, or for a short sports event? I mean, isn't the need obvious enough (judging by horrible congestion and inadequate transit) not to require a big event put a deadline? So far the genius politicians are still debating about the Scarborough subway. Democracy is one thing, this lack of decision or action represents anything but democracy.
LA's stance on the taxpayer financial agreement. If LA is hesitant to sign the agreement, with their Olympic infrastructure in place (Including an Olympic stadium) then its tough to see another city in North America doing the same.
I do notice that the comments under the Olympic related news articles are predominantly negative (like 95% of them), and everyone is like "No, thank you". I don't know if that really represents the general attitude towards the matter or because the naysayers are the loudest.
Although I am fully supportive of another bidding, the cost is indeed a concern for the city. Toronto doesn't have a stadium large enough for the Olympic events as far as I know so there is a lot of uncertainties in that and if the city does decide to go ahead and is successful, it needs to find a more smarter and non-traditional way to fund the project.
I will be happy with either. However, I found a lot of argument for the bidding which says it will improve infrastructure projects rather weird. So Toronto has degraded to such a level where we can't build anything needed unless there is a giant 3 week sports game to take place? Are we supposed to build transits and improve public space for its residents, or for a short sports event? I mean, isn't the need obvious enough (judging by horrible congestion and inadequate transit) not to require a big event put a deadline? So far the genius politicians are still debating about the Scarborough subway. Democracy is one thing, this lack of decision or action represents anything but democracy.
Can you not tie everything back to a cheap attack on Canada's political system? If you are so damn gung-ho with authoritarian bull-dozer style decision-making then by all means, China and North Korea should be your top immigration destinations.
Also, even Tory made it very clear in his response to whether Toronto should host Olympics, and that is the reality of large-scale events is that they put a deadline to get things done. I'm sure we'd all be happy if everyone in government and private sector works together everyday like they do before an Olympics, but that's just not the reality of how humans actually behave. Tory understands this fact very clearly, and he's willing to use another large scale event to speed things up in other areas of the city. Idiotic tactic? Yes. But it works every single time.
I do notice that the comments under the Olympic related news articles are predominantly negative (like 95% of them), and everyone is like "No, thank you". I don't know if that really represents the general attitude towards the matter or because the naysayers are the loudest.
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Comments sections of news articles - you for real? Only people who complain are attracted to those.
Can you not tie everything back to a cheap attack on Canada's political system? If you are so damn gung-ho with authoritarian bull-dozer style decision-making then by all means, China and North Korea should be your top immigration destinations.
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well from someone who loves freedom of speech so much, all of a sudden I can't even express my discontent with the Canadian government and how it works.
OK, OK, everything is perfect here, best democracy and freedom. Everyone other country is envious. Let's call it a day.
While you are unhappy with me "tie everything back to a cheap attack on Canada's political system", you don't seem to miss a single chance to engage cheap attacks on China. I at least live in Canada/US for 10 years, what's your knowledge based on, textbooks and English media? Unlike most Canadians, I am not totally brainwashed into believe any system other than "democracy" is evil and people living under it needs some sort of liberation. Trust me, those people live just fine.
The North Koreans are fine, too really don't worry about them so constantly, especially when you haven't set your step there once, what makes you so confident that it is so inferior? How many times did you start cheap attack on North Korea when it has nothing to do with North Korea? Like that's justified while against Canada is just wrong.
I will keep attacking Canada's political system. That's my right. And where I move to is nobody's business.
Comments sections of news articles - you for real? Only people who complain are attracted to those.
that's true. Even today's news reporting opening of the island airport pedestrian bridge was met with 100 negative comments. Examples:
Great. Now for step 2: close the stupid airport and convert it into a park!
Now you have the UPS to Pearson and a tunnel to Toronto Island then you can close the Island Airport and have them fly from Pearson. Now the island can belong to the citizens not a corporation. Look at the tourist dollars you can make.
The cross channel ferry WAS A JOKE !! I could kick a soccer ball across that channel !!
I'd be too frigthened to go down there. What if they didn't build it strong and the lake falls on you? (best one, where was he raised, South Pole? )
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