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AOL isn't around in the traditional sense. Depending on your vehicle and driving habits, it's cheaper to keep your current vehicle and adjust your driving methods than buy new to save gas. When my wife's car is paid off and it's time to replace my car, I'll look at the compact hatchbacks that get close to 40mpg with an automatic transmission (wife is physically unable to drive manual). If the roads I drive on we're safer, I'd bicycle to work. But they aren't safe so I won't. I've seen some people who mount their bicycle to their car/truck and drive to work then use the bike to get around in the city.
Its just another car that looks ok to me and would sure beat walking or taking the bus or filling up a gas guzzling suv.
I'm sure my Limbaugh clone brother would hate it and go off on a rant about owners of such cars are socialist/communist tree hugging Liberal hypocites
Its just another car that looks ok to me and would sure beat walking or taking the bus or filling up a gas guzzling suv.
I'm sure my Limbaugh clone brother would hate it and go off on a rant about owners of such cars are socialist/communist tree hugging Liberal hypocites
On the surface, hybrids and EVs are environmentally friendly. However, when you factor in the damage to the environment caused to produce such vehicles and their batteries, they seem less environmentally friendly than your average gasoline powered vehicle.
On the surface, hybrids and EVs are environmentally friendly. However, when you factor in the damage to the environment caused to produce such vehicles and their batteries, they seem less environmentally friendly than your average gasoline powered vehicle.
Agreed, Those batteries and how they are produced and disposed of are the main reasons i dont drive a hybrid or electric car ,i drive a Toyota Yaris that gets mid 30's mpg around town and i have got it as high as 49mpg on the highway.
Agreed, Those batteries and how they are produced and disposed of are the main reasons i dont drive a hybrid or electric car ,i drive a Toyota Yaris that gets mid 30's mpg around town and i have got it as high as 49mpg on the highway.
It may interest you to know that virtually every battery installed in a hybrid vehicle in the US and then retired has been recovered and 100% recycled, down to the plastic covers.
I'm actually a fan of this car. People shopping new will be very hard pressed to find a better urban driving / city commuter car option. You can still net a lower owneship cost with something like a base Yaris if we ignore resale value, but this does narrow the gap considerably.
I think the interesting thing will be to see what happens to standard Prius sales. There is about a $5k gap in MSRP between the liftback and the c. Sure, the c is smaller and has less content, but it returns the same MPG.
[quote=sailordave;23429292However, when you factor in the damage to the environment caused to produce such vehicles and their batteries, they seem less environmentally friendly than your average gasoline powered vehicle.[/quote]
So much misinformation and outright lies in many of those articles.. many of the authors dont even understand how a hybrid actually works and performs..
No offense, but did you read the links you posted?
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Above all, remember you are not saving the planet by driving a hybrid or even a fully electric car, you are merely minimizing your impact on the environment.
This is however one side of the coin. Hybrid cars do have some negative environmental impact but it is far less then the the positive aspects of the car.
The second link is from 2006 and is discussing the impact of using LEAD batteries to a greater scale. It goes on to state that NICKEL is far less damaging to the environment and while it may be "a probable carcinogen" and is not without its negatives, is a better choice then lead. They then go on to extoll the virtues of lithium ion and how depending on the composition of the battery it will have very negligible environmental impact. The article then goes on to discuss how Toyota and Honda recycle all of their hybrid batteries.
I agree with you that there are some environmental issues related to the production of the batteries, but they are not nearly the massive issues that people spun them to be in the wake of that "Hummers are better for the environment then a Prius" report which has been totally debunked.
I'll be buying it when they have a plugin version of the C.. hopefully my 13 year old car will last that long.
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