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People freak out about gas prices for the wrong reasons.
If gas jumped from $3.50 to $5.50 tomorrow, it would only affect my entire household has in my wife and I just under $200 a month. $2400 a year.
It would still be cheaper to keep my current vehicles then get that thing. I bet it sells for mids 20s when all said and done.
BTW that thing looks just about worthless if you need to haul anything or have a baby or infant.
The reason to freak over gas prices is cost of the transportation of goods, and how it will affect the prices of everything in the world, not just your gas bill.
But, if gas went to this level, wouldn't everything cost you more like food? Trucks that deliver the food would have to pay more too. And airlines fares would go up. You would be paying more than just what gas cost you.
I did a quick search and selected some of the hybrid friendly links because I knew the tree huggers would openly deny info from a site not friendly to hybrids. If friendly sites report this much, wonder how much they're holding back?
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Originally Posted by NJGOAT
No offense, but did you read the links you posted?
Quote from the first link...
The second link is from 2006 and is discussing the impact of using LEAD batteries to a greater scale. It goes on to state that NICKEL is far less damaging to the environment and while it may be "a probable carcinogen" and is not without its negatives, is a better choice then lead. They then go on to extoll the virtues of lithium ion and how depending on the composition of the battery it will have very negligible environmental impact. The article then goes on to discuss how Toyota and Honda recycle all of their hybrid batteries.
I agree with you that there are some environmental issues related to the production of the batteries, but they are not nearly the massive issues that people spun them to be in the wake of that "Hummers are better for the environment then a Prius" report which has been totally debunked.
Holding back? Holy tin foil hat! Aint black magic... The "science" is not brand new and unknown.. many "diesel" trains have used much the same hybrid technology for DECADES... Holding back.. lol
On the surface, hybrids and EVs are environmentally friendly. However, when you factor in the damage to the environment caused to produce such vehicles and their batteries, they seem less environmentally friendly than your average gasoline powered vehicle.
At this point who cares, the main thang is are the dependable, last a long time, cheap to own and actualy get the mpg they claim. The one co-worker I know that has one gets about 45 or so mpg in his running the ac wide open and driving the car plenty hard.
On the surface, hybrids and EVs are environmentally friendly. However, when you factor in the damage to the environment caused to produce such vehicles and their batteries, they seem less environmentally friendly than your average gasoline powered vehicle.
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Originally Posted by NJGOAT
It may interest you to know that virtually every battery installed in a hybrid vehicle in the US and then retired has been recovered and 100% recycled, down to the plastic covers.
Don't you hate when facts get in the way of a potentially good point
Don't know if its still the same. Don't have any references like a proper internet warrior.. But awhile back. I remember reading an article that the carbon footprint of a Prius was bigger then a bummer h2.
Based on the nickel being processed and mined in Canada being shipped to Russia or something refined, then sent to Japan. Then all the energy produced to build the car, then ship it across pacific back to north America and sold. Then that hummers are truck based and tend to be last high mileage.
While the H2 was built in the NORTH AMERICA.
Sent from my autocorrect butchering device.
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For my around town needs an all electric car would be ideal, all thats needed is a way to charge the thing in minutes rather than hours as i have no way to plug it in in the apartment block i live in..
The "news" factor for me was that AOL is still around...
You dirty son of a gun
Yea, I have a little trouble with change
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el" trains have used much the same hybrid technology for DECADES... Holding back.. lol
