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I like the FR-S and xB. The other models are lame and I don't recall ever seeing one outside a dealer's lot (and usually not there, either). The xB does seem to attract a senior citizen audience, which is clearly not what the company was going for. The tC has potential. I really like the new design for the most part, but it does feel a bit like the front didn't get the aggressive styling that the side received.
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Originally Posted by GTOlover
I though scion was originally trying to target the younger Generation Y to get them into their first new car so they would become brand loyal to Toyota still the FR-S is decent IMO but then again Subaru sells pretty the exact same car (the BRZ) for a few grand less then Toyota.
Base model BRZ - $25,695
Base model FR-S - $25,470
I though scion was originally trying to target the younger Generation Y to get them into their first new car so they would become brand loyal to Toyota still the FR-S is decent IMO but then again Subaru sells pretty the exact same car (the BRZ) for a few grand less then Toyota.
BRZ=more $$ than the FRS. Mainly/especially when options are added.
I don't really think the FR-S/BR-Z is a car young people really WANT either. It's a car 50 year old white men THINK young people want.
Look how many 18-30 year olds drive Mustangs/Camaros/Challangers, it's a pretty big number. I bet good money most of them are Automatics too.
The FR-S with it's puny engine is the Kids' Table in comparison, and no-one wants to sit at the Kids' table. The kids want the big V8s.
Not true. One of my friends (29) has a BRZ, and most people on the brz forum I am in are 30 or under. A lot of young people are actually learning to drive and value what the brz and frs bring to the table for scca type activities.
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Originally Posted by Mandalorian
I don't really think the FR-S/BR-Z is a car young people really WANT either. It's a car 50 year old white men THINK young people want.
Look how many 18-30 year olds drive Mustangs/Camaros/Challangers, it's a pretty big number. I bet good money most of them are Automatics too.
The FR-S with it's puny engine is the Kids' Table in comparison, and no-one wants to sit at the Kids' table. The kids want the big V8s.
How many FR-S owners do you know?
Yes, lots of young people drive Mustangs/Camaros/Challengers, but there are also a lot of young people driving an FR-S. You mock the FR-S's puny engine, but ignore that the car is significantly lighter.
It's also smaller, which is great when you have to park it in cities. And it gets better fuel economy. And it has great handling.
Yes, lots of young people drive Mustangs/Camaros/Challengers, but there are also a lot of young people driving an FR-S. You mock the FR-S's puny engine, but ignore that the car is significantly lighter.
It's also smaller, which is great when you have to park it in cities. And it gets better fuel economy. And it has great handling.
The thing's got 151 lbsft torque, that's pretty pathetic for a sports car. A V6 Camry or Accord can smoke it.
Also it's a sports car, so fuel economy shouldn't be a priority. Also the size difference between it and a Muscle car isn't enough to warrant a significant increase in ease of parking.
I had an '08 Scion tC with the 5 speed manual. It was a fun little car to drive, had a lot of room considering the small size of the vehicle. However, there was a lot of road noise, it was severely underpowered and you could tell that it was an economy vehicle. I also had an issue with the hatch where the rear plastic piece broke off. I believe there was a recall issued for it but I had already gotten rid of the vehicle by the time I got the notice.
Also, for a vehicle with a 4 cylinder, I thought the mileage could've been better.
IMO, if they offered a forced induction version of the FR-S/BRZ that wouldn't break the bank, I think they would sell a lot of them.
Horsepower can sell cars.
I think Toyota really dropped the ball recently on the Scion line. They were quite popular when they first came out but now they've faded quite severely.
My wife and I each own an XB.. And as for older people driving them, yes we do but a hell of a lot of young people drive them as well.. Most of you on here must not be into the car scene or live in So Cal.. If you were you would see tons of Scions at the events and driving all over mostly by young people....
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