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I think Ford and Hyundai will be the fastest rising auto makers for 2010 and for maybe 2011. I am looking at both manufacturers and I'm also considering buying a Malibu. Basically, it's a Sonata, Malibu, or Fusion for me. I'm tempted by the Fusion hybrid, though the Malibu has gotten consistently high marks.
My wife wants a Honda Fit ....... so assuming the usual rules go, we'll be getting a Fit *sigh*
I think Ford and Hyundai will be the fastest rising auto makers for 2010 and for maybe 2011. I am looking at both manufacturers and I'm also considering buying a Malibu. Basically, it's a Sonata, Malibu, or Fusion for me. I'm tempted by the Fusion hybrid, though the Malibu has gotten consistently high marks.
My wife wants a Honda Fit ....... so assuming the usual rules go, we'll be getting a Fit *sigh*
If I felt Toyota went the way of Detroit, and this was not a temporary mess up, I certainly would NOT buy a Detroit 3 car! The Detroit 3 had so many recalls for so many different things over the years it's not funny! The press just didn't create mass hysteria over it. I would buy a Honda or a Hyundai over anything that spewed out of Detroit.
If I felt Toyota went the way of Detroit, and this was not a temporary mess up, I certainly would NOT buy a Detroit 3 car! The Detroit 3 had so many recalls for so many different things over the years it's not funny! The press just didn't create mass hysteria over it. I would buy a Honda or a Hyundai over anything that spewed out of Detroit.
With a statement like this and your forum name, I'd say you are outafocus alright!
First of all the poor economy overhangs everything. I do not see how the auto business as a whole, improves meaningfully over the next few years.
Cars/trucks will of course be bought, so the manufacturers are fighting for market share.
I think Ford will continue to gain market share. Ford will take share from all brands except the luxury imports since Ford has nothing that appeals to a Lexus or Mercedes buyer. GM will win some and lose some. They still have no distinctive small cars. No one who would normally buy a Honda Civic will choose a Cobalt instead.
Not one good thing is happening at Chysler. They will lose share in all of their markets, including Jeep, their best brand. No one will trust their updated models because Chrysler has 20 years of bad history.
Toyota will be stung - and some of their buyers will choose Honda, Subaru, Hyundai, Ford, and Nissan instead.
I don't think Honda will be a big winner per se. Many of their current vehicles are not special - the Pilot for example. The CRV is very good but is underpowered compared to others with equivalent fuel economy (RAV4 V6 especially). Honda doesn't have a sports car in the lineup anymore.
I think Subaru and Hyundai are on a roll and it will continue.
Great analysis, overall.
I just think many are underestimating Toyota. Once this whole news, other suspecting (behind the scenes) players are done with their witch hunt, Toyota will fare well. Again, mark my words. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But in the business I'm in (actuary), I am betting on Toyota in the long run.
The thing is plenty of people are just waiting for this thing to blow over, to get their Toyotas.
They know: 1. Toyota cannot and will not rest on its laurels anymore, hence better products.
2. Toyota will do whatever it takes to keep its segment share, and Toyota has the deep pockets to do it. They need to bring more interesting cars, and let the suppliers from Japan get more parts in the American cars.
3. Better products will come sooner than later, making all competitors work harder to stay ahead. (We all benefit anyways, whether we like Toyota or its competitors). If it weren't for the Japanese, US Automakers would still be producing S-hitty cars.
4. Toyota will be offering 100k mile warranty in their cars very soon, to match the Domestic's warranties.
My wife and I are going to test drive the new Sienna tomorrow. It would take more than the news/media to get many, many Toyota owners who have had repeated success away from their cars, and future Toyotas.
Ask people who owned more than one or two Toyotas, and you'll get the honest truth, the news can't deny.
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What I hope is that when this whole thing blows over....Toyota will cut their prices in order get their customers back. If that happens, I'll be down at the Toyota dealer with my checkbook...even though I don't really need any new vehicles right now...
Either that, or I'm just looking for unsuspecting suckers who will let go of their Toyotas for dirt cheap. I'm ready...Cash in hand.
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The new Malibu is very stylish, the Buick LaCrosse is nice too.
I have always had a personal preference for Chrysler myself. If I had the money I would go out and buy a new Dodge Challenger SRT-8. It would be worth the $46k to have that car
$46k for a Dodge? That's just crazy!!
I would never pay $5k for one, let alone $46k. I can get a new Camry LE and a brand new Accord LX (both 4cyl) for that money. Or a Sienna and change for a low mileage Civic LX. Or get a BMW 335i, Lexus IS350, or even an EcoBoost Taurus for less money (with minor mods, I'm beating that Dodge on all tracks with the last 3 cars).
Too many options for that kind of money.
That's just crazy. What are the guys from Detroit thinking?
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Originally Posted by eskercurve
I think Ford and Hyundai will be the fastest rising auto makers for 2010 and for maybe 2011. I am looking at both manufacturers and I'm also considering buying a Malibu. Basically, it's a Sonata, Malibu, or Fusion for me. I'm tempted by the Fusion hybrid, though the Malibu has gotten consistently high marks.
My wife wants a Honda Fit ....... so assuming the usual rules go, we'll be getting a Fit *sigh*
Listen to the wife. She knows best.
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Originally Posted by outafocus
If I felt Toyota went the way of Detroit, and this was not a temporary mess up, I certainly would NOT buy a Detroit 3 car! The Detroit 3 had so many recalls for so many different things over the years it's not funny! The press just didn't create mass hysteria over it. I would buy a Honda or a Hyundai over anything that spewed out of Detroit.
Agreed. Too many good options out there. But in Ford's defense, they have improved. They're making better cars, but again, too many options out there.
Do you want them to go back with the jobs they created in the USA too?
Sure, why not? Since our loving US Automakers are shipping jobs elsewhere too.
Then blame the gov't (and liberals too, right? )....
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Yeah, Hyundai will probably pick-up whatever slack Toyota leave. Chrysler might bring this to the US to compete with Ford Transit Connects
If it comes as a turbo diesel with 6speed manual and Ford is still trying to push gas motors with a 4speed auto on people wanting transit like vehicles, then I may just get that Fiat/Dodge
Only if it comes with the Fiat badge (which I hope it does). If Dodge stamps its name on that car, it's not going anywhere. The Ford Transit will walk all over it, if the Chrysler badge is on it.
I hope Fiat sets foot here, and distances itself from Chrysler, once established. It would benefit them in the long run.
Do you want them to go back with the jobs they created in the USA too?
Sure, why not? Since our loving US Automakers are shipping jobs elsewhere too.
Then blame the gov't (and liberals too, right? )....
I stand by my statement.
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