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Old 02-16-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Agreed



Check your facts, CNN/Time Warner does not own ABC/Disney. They are actually in direct competition with them. Tiem Warner has divested itself of theme parks and all other non-media (TV/movies/music/magazines/etc.) ventures.
my apologies. faulty googling on my part.


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Old 02-16-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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my apologies. faulty googling on my part.


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No worries
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Yup, three in six years--there's no evidence that the third one was anything more than a drunk falling off a balcony. A real crime wave, eh?
I didn't look long to find those, and didn't post the reports of Canadians that were killed in allegedly safe tourist areas like Cancun, Canadians that were killed in their homes while living in Mexico, nor did I include any reports of Americans that were killed on or off resorts.

As for you ridiculing people that opened their hotel door to a stranger at the resort and were subsequently killed... Seriously, if you can't open your hotel door while in the resort because a stranger may come into your room and kill you, why the hell would you want to go there in the first place? If the hallways of the resort aren't safe, why would I think the beach, pool or common grounds of the resort are any safer?
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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As with the mean streets of the South Side of Chicago, or Detroit or even Toledo, for that matter, there are bad people who kill other people for money, or drugs or *whatever*. I do not believe, on a per capita basis that Mexico is any worse than any large city in the United States.
In 2011, the murder rate in Mexico was 24 per 100,000 citizens. By comparison, the 2011 murder rate in the United States was 4.8 per 100,000 citizens.

To say that the murder rate in Mexico is no different than in the United States is incredibly naive at best.

Caveat emptor.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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We have had several lovely vacations in Mexico, but it was more than 10 ten years ago. The people were so warm and welcoming. I am not sure I would chose to go there now, because of safety issues. I'm sad about it because it is so beautiful there.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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I didn't look long to find those, and didn't post the reports of Canadians that were killed in allegedly safe tourist areas like Cancun, Canadians that were killed in their homes while living in Mexico, nor did I include any reports of Americans that were killed on or off resorts.
You need to compare that with Canadians killed in their homes in Canada. I suspect it will be similar in length.

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As for you ridiculing people that opened their hotel door to a stranger at the resort and were subsequently killed... Seriously, if you can't open your hotel door while in the resort because a stranger may come into your room and kill you, why the hell would you want to go there in the first place? If the hallways of the resort aren't safe, why would I think the beach, pool or common grounds of the resort are any safer?
It's not ridiculous--it's common sense and it's what hotel operators will tell you--even in Canada.

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Old 02-17-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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In 2011, the murder rate in Mexico was 24 per 100,000 citizens. By comparison, the 2011 murder rate in the United States was 4.8 per 100,000 citizens.

To say that the murder rate in Mexico is no different than in the United States is incredibly naive at best.

Caveat emptor.
You can't just use some arbitrary number. You need to compare the murder rate of TOURISTS. I suspect it will be the same. By the way, two Canadian tourists were just murdered in their vacation home in Florida. Are you now going to say that the United States should be avoided at all costs?
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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You need to compare that with Canadians killed in their homes in Canada. I suspect it will be similar in length.
Do you have actual facts or statistics to back up this opinion of yours? Not that I will hold my breath waiting for them.

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You can't just use some arbitrary number.
The national murder rate isn't an "arbitrary number" and is directly relevant to this discussion.

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You need to compare the murder rate of TOURISTS. I suspect it will be the same. By the way, two Canadian tourists were just murdered in their vacation home in Florida. Are you now going to say that the United States should be avoided at all costs?
The United States does not have even remotely the same level of corruption and lawlessness as Mexico does, as evidenced by the links and statistics I provided to you. It is obvious you are having a hard time disputing those facts, and are using your personal opinions to dance around them. You really need to learn how to improve your debating skills.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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Do you have actual facts or statistics to back up this opinion of yours? Not that I will hold my breath waiting for them.
The murder rate in Canada is 1.9:100,000. The number of Canadian tourists murdered in Mexico is??? Less than the number of people murdered in Canada every year.

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The national murder rate isn't an "arbitrary number" and is directly relevant to this discussion.
I disagree. That's like saying that the murder rate in Camden is relevant to tourism in Yellowstone.

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The United States does not have even remotely the same level of corruption and lawlessness as Mexico does, as evidenced by the links and statistics I provided to you. It is obvious you are having a hard time disputing those facts, and are using your personal opinions to dance around them. You really need to learn how to improve your debating skills.
You seem to be the one dancing around the facts.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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The murder rate in Canada is 1.9:100,000. The number of Canadian tourists murdered in Mexico is??? Less than the number of people murdered in Canada every year.

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I disagree. That's like saying that the murder rate in Camden is relevant to tourism in Yellowstone.
So the murder rate in Canada is relevant to a discussion about tourism in Mexico, yet you don't feel the murder rate in Mexico is relevant to a discussion about tourism in Mexico. That's some logic you are using there.

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You seem to be the one dancing around the facts.
Really? Please reread what you posted above.

This discussion is truly becoming painful to continue.
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