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Old 02-03-2011, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Take OJ for example.

Assume OJ "did it", did he say "Johnny, I did it, here's where I put the glove, this is where I did this and here's when I did that...."

OR

Does he lie to Johnny?

If he lies, then Johnny seems to be at a disadvantage because he really doesn't know what all really happened.

If OJ admits, then Johnny (assuming he believes him) knows all the facts and theoretically can craft a better defense.

If a defendant can get away with admitting his crime to his lawyer, then why would any defendant lie to his lawyer?

However if it was a crime for a lawyer not to report a defendant's admission, then defendants would never admit it. (The lawyer would say "don't tell me"). This would be in society's best interest because a truly guilty defendant would always have his lawyer at the disadvantage of not knowing the true facts.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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Most do not but many times the lawyer knows as he sees the evidence. But a defense is his job.But often they have to make accusation they know are not true whcih I would think should be a problem for any decent person.But its really no surprise that alot of lawyers could careless except for the fame and money really.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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The laws/rules of evidence, put certain conversations as "sacred." Conversations between you, your wife/husband, pastor, or attorney. What you tell these persons and/or what you say to someone you ASSUME is a privileged person, is not admissable in court (yes, there are exceptions).
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Twinsburg, OH
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Many defense attorneys don't want to know whether or not their client did it.

But as another poster has said, they can usually figure it out themselves based on the evidence.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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I would think that a client must tell the lawyer the truth; it would be foolish for them not to do so. Everyone has the right to representation/a defense...I would think better to let the attorney know everything rather than be surprised in Court, for sure. If I ever did something criminal [and have not, just for the records - smile], I would make sure my attorney knew everything -- that way he/she would be better suited/prepared to prepare a defense and/or at least a plea -- whatever one says to one's attorney after a crime has been committed is sacred between attorney - client --- if however, and correct me if I am wrong -- a person tells an attorney I am going to do such and such, as an officer of the court, the attorney is required to say something but if a person tells a client, I did such and such, then it is sacred.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Most of the time your client will NOT tell you the truth. They tend to sugarcoat and/or omit certain facts because they don't realize you've heard the same BS stories only about 2000 times. We know how to get what we need and how to confront the client who has been less than forthcoming with vital information.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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I dont know how any laywer could defend a MURDERER saying they didnt do it when they did!!

I know they are being paid to win the case BUT HOW CAN THEY IGNORE WHAT WAS DONE??
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (most of the time)
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If they want to testify in their own defense, then no they cannot tell the lawyer that they're guilty.
This since the lawyer would not be allowed to let his client testify as the lawyer would then know that the client is commiting perjory. (It's the law.)
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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If they want to testify in their own defense, then no they cannot tell the lawyer that they're guilty.
This since the lawyer would not be allowed to let his client testify as the lawyer would then know that the client is commiting perjory. (It's the law.)
Is it?????
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:26 PM
 
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Are you kidding? Sociopaths convince themselves that they are completely innocent, and stay to that story, because they truly believe it is not their fault that they are in trouble. Take OJ for example, "it was all HER fault, cheating, lying no good ho". He repeats that mantra to himself so much he believes his own innocence!
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