City and Metro Murders 2016 (case, cities, criminal, shooting)
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Hmmm, all of your posts are about this topic... Who doesn't know about St. Louis and its high murder rates? It has gotten the joke of a headline "most dangerous" multiple times, and sorry but I totally disagree with you because I think crime in St. Louis, despite being a major problem, is actually overplayed by media.
The "rate" that is calculated uses only around 15% of the region's population (ballparking this for now), as St. Louis, an independent city not in St. Louis county, has tiny city limits (62 sq miles of land) that make comparing it to other cities that can have 10x as much land area and include tons of their suburbs (thus hiding/diluting the states) completely apples to oranges and worthless. The fact that you mention and shrug off Memphis clearly shows that you don't get this. Memphis is the exact opposite, it has huge city limits that includes tons of suburbs and it still has a super high murder rate. If you do the same for St. Louis and add its suburbs it results in dozens upon dozens of cities coming out as "more dangerous" than St. Louis... yet St. Louis (and when people say St. Louis, they're thinking of the region of almost 3 million people, not just the tiny city limits) always gets trashed for this.
There are advantages to the tiny city limits, per capita stats show St. Louis performing exceptionally in tons of categories: I think it comes in 2nd behind DC for museums, things like libraries, green space, other cultural measures, etc. (from memory) Does St. Louis get credit for this??? No! People see St. Louis up near the top in the US and immediately attack the number since it just uses meaningless city limits, then turn around and forget all that when posting crime stats, because hey, it's St. Louis... St. Louis gets screwed on both sides.
A poster in this thread even commented about KC's super high crime rate (another city with massive, suburb filled limits) and asked if it was becaue of gangs coming from St. Louis! Lol, are people serious? KC also has a huge crime and abandonment problem, and its MSA often comes out as more dangerous than St. Louis, but St. Louis catches all the flack...
These murder rate forums are (for some reason) municipality-obsessed – we know municipalities often don't match a city's size. Memphis has a higher murder rate than STL every year not just this one and it's higher than Baltimore in 2016, it actually tops the list. It's even worse than New Orleans.
Several of the other cities cited are suburbs of cities. They should be included with the cities they're suburbs of, otherwise they wouldn't be suburbs.
Funnily enough I've been trying to tell people that KC has a higher murder rate than STL normally. It's only in the last two years where STL has ballooned up and KC has plunged that STL has the higher murder rate.
The only thing I agree with that STL guy about is Chicago. The hype is laughable, even if it's debilitated badly in the last year/18 months, there is no doubt about that and I didn't see it coming. Still, people are trying to say it's up there with Cape Town or Acapulco (or Rio), they're crazy.
Last edited by Barracuda Force; 07-02-2016 at 05:39 PM..
It should be noted that at this time last year New Orleans was about to cross the 100 mark with 97 murders. So this is better year than last year and it has been going down steadily. Let's hope it keeps up.
Not sure what's up with Memphis...
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