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It's comments like the above that I don't understand (not in a bad way, just don't get it). Jill has also apologized over and over. Why is Ramona apologizing acceptable, and Jill not?
Alex = annoying wannabe with passive agressive anger issues. Yuck.
Ramona = someone who says the crulest things to people and somehow gets away with it by constantly apologizing - or by being completely unapologetic depending on the situation.
Jill = went out of her way for Bethany for years, then behaved badly after Bethany dumped her friendship when she met Jason.
Bethany = person with major issues who dumped her friend when she met a guy, tried to apologize, got fed up when her apology wasn't accepted and now won't accept her friend's apology.
I think all these women are pretty much on a par with one another. I realize everyone now loves to hate Jill, but I don't get it. She doesn't seem any worse than any of the others to me.
difference is Jill is not really sorry for her actions; only sorry for herself. She is not going to change. Says she is but really isn't. Made TOO much over nothing to begin with then continued her mean girl crap until she was ready to say it's ok now we can be friends. TOO little-tooooooooooooooo late.
Don't know what show you've been watching but Bethenny did NOT dump Jill after meeting Jason. She continued to try to reason with Jill for months after she and Jason were dating. One can only apologize and be made a fool of so many times before one is over it. Bethenny tried and tried and cried and cried and Jill didn't give a sh*t.
You obviously dislike Alex and see her one way and I another.
No point in either of us trying to convince the other. That would be as futile as Bethenny trying to reason with Jill.
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I think all these women are pretty much on a par with one another. I realize everyone now loves to hate Jill, but I don't get it. She doesn't seem any worse than any of the others to me.
The difference between Ramona and Jill are this:
Ramona is rude or snaps, makes sure to apologize ASAP, moves on, and forgets about it without holding a grude. Ramona accepts apologies easily too.
Jill is rude or snaps, takes a long time before breaking down to apologize, then turns around and wispers about the person the very next conversation she has. Jill can't put anything behind her. She always remembers. She holds grudges long after apologizing. And she doesn't easily accept apologies and actually turns them down.
Don't know what show you've been watching but Bethenny did NOT dump Jill after meeting Jason. She continued to try to reason with Jill for months after she and Jason were dating. One can only apologize and be made a fool of so many times before one is over it. Bethenny tried and tried and cried and cried and Jill didn't give a sh*t.
You obviously dislike Alex and see her one way and I another.
No point in either of us trying to convince the other. That would be as futile as Bethenny trying to reason with Jill.
We ARE allowed to see things differently you know. Doesn't mean I've been watching a different show or have misunderstood anything.
Bethany DID imho dump Jill and that's what Jill got all bent out of shape about. Eventually Bethany realized that Jill was much more upset than she had thought and she tried to apologize which Jill (wrongly) refused to accept until later. Then Jill tried to apologize to Bethany which she now (wrongly) refuses to accept.
They are both guilty of absolutely the same thing, but Bethany started it. Jill massively overreacted, but she was very hurt. I kind of understand that.
How do you know the motives behind Jill's apology to Bethany? She seems very genuinely to miss her. I guess your mind reading skills are just sharper than mine! Lol.
We ARE allowed to see things differently you know. Doesn't mean I've been watching a different show or have misunderstood anything.
Bethany DID imho dump Jill and that's what Jill got all bent out of shape about. Eventually Bethany realized that Jill was much more upset than she had thought and she tried to apologize which Jill (wrongly) refused to accept until later. Then Jill tried to apologize to Bethany which she now (wrongly) refuses to accept.
They are both guilty of absolutely the same thing, but Bethany started it. Jill massively overreacted, but she was very hurt. I kind of understand that.
How do you know the motives behind Jill's apology to Bethany? She seems very genuinely to miss her. I guess your mind reading skills are just sharper than mine! Lol.
nope, Bethenny did not start it. I don't have to read minds; I just watch the show.
Jill massively over reacted and was hurt by............what?? By Bethenny getting a life, a boyfriend, her own show?? Because as it turns out that was why Jill was so disturbed. She's such a user and did everything but stalk Bethenny until B had had enough of Jill's crap and told her to get a hobby.
I asked if you had been watching because anyone who follows it knew Bethenny had been seeing Jason all during the time she was trying to maintain a friendship with Jill that Bethenny had no idea was over.
What anyone missed during the season was all brought up on the reunion show and Jill admitted what she had done was wrong.
nope, Bethenny did not start it. I don't have to read minds; I just watch the show.
Jill massively over reacted and was hurt by............what?? By Bethenny getting a life, a boyfriend, her own show?? Because as it turns out that was why Jill was so disturbed. She's such a user and did everything but stalk Bethenny until B had had enough of Jill's crap and told her to get a hobby.
I asked if you had been watching because anyone who follows it knew Bethenny had been seeing Jason all during the time she was trying to maintain a friendship with Jill that Bethenny had no idea was over.
What anyone missed during the season was all brought up on the reunion show and Jill admitted what she had done was wrong.
whatever............water under the bridge.
Ok, you win. Apparently there is no room at all for differing view points. We both watched it but apparently only you can be right. Congrats, the way I see it is totally wrong and you are totally right.
Signs off from this silliness, because really who cares. Byeee!
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The wedding totally made me cry. I'm so happy for Bethy. She deserves it. She's a hard flower but she seems genuine to me. She can't help the way she is.
BTW, I kind of hope that the show ended after the wedding. I don't really care to see the honeymoon. Am I the only 1 who feels that way? :/
My bet is they will stretch this past the wedding and into the labor and delivery room.
I hope not! How many times to we have to see people give birth, either acted or on reality TV, there seems to be this obsession with showing people give birth.
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