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She made partner. That was what she wanted. That was the deal. She had to wh*** herself out to get it, but she got it regardless of the account. She wanted partnership. Mission accomplished.
She wanted partnership in a successful firm. Not one that's struggling. Partnership won't do her much good if they have to fold.
She made partner. That was what she wanted. That was the deal. She had to wh*** herself out to get it, but she got it regardless of the account. She wanted partnership. Mission accomplished.
I don't think "regardless of the account" is actually the case. Bringing Jaguar in, even though she had to debase herself to do it, gave her relevance as a partner. When Don jettisoned Jaguar, she lost that relevance. She was just Joan the office manager, moving secretaries around, ordering office supplies, who happened to be a minority partner. She's been fighting to get past that, with Avon, and with the shoe account. It's accounts that get you moved to the nice executive offices. Even Lane recognized that, when he first tried to reel Jaguar in. It's accounts that the other partners respect.
When Don threw Jaguar away, it was a major blow to Joan. And it made what she did to get the account count for less than nothing, as well. If a person values themselves, then they value the sacrifices they make. If someone makes that sacrifice worthless, then it devalues the person who made that sacrifice as well.
I don't think "regardless of the account" is actually the case. Bringing Jaguar in, even though she had to debase herself to do it, gave her relevance as a partner. When Don jettisoned Jaguar, she lost that relevance. She was just Joan the office manager, moving secretaries around, ordering office supplies, who happened to be a minority partner. She's been fighting to get past that, with Avon, and with the shoe account. It's accounts that get you moved to the nice executive offices. Even Lane recognized that, when he first tried to reel Jaguar in. It's accounts that the other partners respect.
When Don threw Jaguar away, it was a major blow to Joan. And it made what she did to get the account count for less than nothing, as well. If a person values themselves, then they value the sacrifices they make. If someone makes that sacrifice worthless, then it devalues the person who made that sacrifice as well.
and in many ways, her selling herself for partnership hasn't changed her office role much. Bert still asks her to remove the african american secretary from the front desk …
but yes, she got Avon.
Just saying, Don told her not to do it, she did it anyway. They wanted a car company, they got Jaguar, which was notoriously unreliable. Now a male prostitute is handling Chevy.
You can see the difference in the times of the day too … today, if a name partner in a firm was treated the way they are treating Don, they would demand a buyout and go to court to get it.
I really thought Bert was an azzhat for spelling it out for Don that he's in a dead man's office. Classy.
I don't think times have changed all that much in terms of named partners. Don could demand a buyout, but if he does, it could be the end of the company. And Don thinks of the firm as HIS company. He's reiterated it more than a few times during the past two episodes. HIS firm. HE started the company. He doesn't want the company to go under. He wants HIS company back.
I don't think times have changed all that much in terms of named partners. Don could demand a buyout, but if he does, it could be the end of the company. And Don thinks of the firm as HIS company. He's reiterated it more than a few times during the past two episodes. HIS firm. HE started the company. He doesn't want the company to go under. He wants HIS company back.
But in today's world, he'd demand the buyout and then some.
and in many ways, her selling herself for partnership hasn't changed her office role much. Bert still asks her to remove the african american secretary from the front desk …
but yes, she got Avon.
Just saying, Don told her not to do it, she did it anyway. They wanted a car company, they got Jaguar, which was notoriously unreliable. Now a male prostitute is handling Chevy.
It hadn't changed her office role much. But it's changed now. Now Bert can ask her to move a receptionist to another task, but she, in turn, asks Dawn to handle it. Bert, a major partner, passes his requests to a minor partner, who then asks a supervisor to do whatever. That's a big change.
Don told her not to do it, after the deed was done. Not "she did it anyway". She thought Don was in agreement with the other partners when she did it. She only found out afterward that he wasn't.
and in many ways, her selling herself for partnership hasn't changed her office role much. Bert still asks her to remove the african american secretary from the front desk …
but yes, she got Avon.
Just saying, Don told her not to do it, she did it anyway. They wanted a car company, they got Jaguar, which was notoriously unreliable. Now a male prostitute is handling Chevy.
I thought Don showed up at her apartment after the fact. It looked like she was undressing not dressing.
Upstate New York? Hippies? 1969? I was expecting Roger to get caught up in Woodstock somehow. Maybe it's only 1968 though. The old farmhouse and free spirits wandering around had me musing on my own 60s experience. It dosen't seem that long ago somehow. I'm really enjoying Mad Men but I think splitting a season in half is pretty low. Not that I won't be watching in 2015 (if I'm here that long-us old hippies are dying out).
Glad to see some of you agree that the episode left a lot to be desired.
Did we ever see Don as a really silly drunk on previous episodes.............he really acted the goofy silly drunk part last night. Different kind of drunk for him.
Going to hard to ramp it up for the last three episodes unless all three will be hit right out of the ballpark!
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