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Old 02-10-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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I doubt many of the series considered popular today will be considered "ageless" in the coming decades, assuming we have many decades left.
Yes, very few shows become classics.

Breaking Bad will probably make the cut in recent times. Sopranos, probably.


(Seinfeld and possibly Friends made the cut from the nineties.)
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Old 02-10-2015, 01:34 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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It just seems so dated, with dated Storylines that don't translate.

Schneider was hilarious back then. Today...not so much. He is so obnoxious and cliche as a foil for Ann's hard boiled feminist shtick.

Schneider is advising Barbara not to lose her virginity with the following quote. "Always remember, and please never forget: A man is like a bow-and-arrow, and a woman is like a target. Bow-and-arrow needs practice. Target doesn't."

I watched every episode of Alice and it's not very memorable, except for Mel being a hard *ss and Flo's kiss my grits. The other character I remember the most is the postman character.

You really only saw three sets...the diner, Flo's trailer, and Alice's dingy apartment.

I do remember the episode where she goes on a date, but he reveals he is gay. Then he wants to take her son camping and she goes off on him, although I think she ends up letting him go on the trip.
And i believe on all in the family you mainly saw the bunkers kitchen and living room
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:19 AM
 
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I think one reason many sitcoms from the 1970s seem dated is that the issues they advocated then are considered non-controversial now.
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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(Seinfeld and possibly Friends made the cut from the nineties.)
Seinfeld? Yes. Probably.

Friends? No. I watched it recently, and the show has not aged well at all.
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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I think one reason many sitcoms from the 1970s seem dated is that the issues they advocated then are considered non-controversial now.
It isn't just their advocation. It's that they were so non-subtle about it. Mary Tyler Moore was almost a Stepford Feminist. In the latter seasons of M*A*S*H, all too often Hawkeye became the self-appointed Pope of Humanism. All great stories have an inherent morality to them, but it bugs me to no one end when a character exists only to preach and wag the finger.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:48 PM
 
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One Day at a Time was so-so. It's been rerun at some point on TVLand. They tried to cover some issues that were a big deal back then and they used words that were designed for the shock effect. They aren't shocking at all now.

Never could stand Alice. Hated that show. The movie was better and it makes top movie lists, but was never really one that I liked all that much.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:03 AM
 
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Ann was more than a single mom; she was something of an arrogant feminist.

Does one not remember how she would stare anyone in the eye with that upturned chin and proclaim "MIZ!" when anyone addressed her wrong.......and the reply of the mistaken was often, "Oh, god, she's one of those!".

Right or wrong, one has to keep in mind that Ann's trademark would be there for audiences of today to see.

As things go, I watched an episode of a sitcom from the 60's last night, "That Girl". What a difference in shows, perhaps in times, and probably what a difference in one that has a better chance of being shown.

Why, what? That Girl was never, as near as I could tell, remember, political. It managed to have each episode without referring to what was happening in the real external world.

Perhaps it was the censorship standards of the time of why it did not but in any event, IMHO, I believe having such as stance, of not getting involved in the current events, produces a better show.
That's right it was a very big deal that she stopped using her husbands name Cooper and went back to Romano
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:31 AM
 
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Mary Tyler Moore was almost a Stepford Feminist.


I didn't find her character a feminist. If anything, the character she played on The Dick Van Dyke Show was more feminist because she wore capris and flats.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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I didn't find her character a feminist. If anything, the character she played on The Dick Van Dyke Show was more feminist because she wore capris and flats.
Somewhere in the distance, Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinam's blood just boiled.
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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I don't remember much about Alice; I never watched it.

One Day At a Time's humor is very dated, and the characters are cartoonish.

I'm not surprised either one is not popular.
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