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As a fan of both, having read all the comics and seen the show, I can say the differences are there, sometimes they are big, but it's mostly about the characters - the story in general is following the same pattern and will probably follow it still.
As for the characters - this is where things get interesting. Both the tv show and the comic have characters that don't appear in the other (for example, there is no Daryl in the comics), sometimes the focus is completely changed or even the character - Carol is the perfect example, she has a similar background in both, but is a very different person and she's not one of the main characters in the comics just as she is in the tv show.
Generally I like them both and don't mind the differences,especially since it's not like the comics always does things better (though imo, that's mostly the case). It's fun to observe 2 very similar yet so different stories.
Another thing is, if you think the tv series is hardcore.... wait till you read the comics. Tv, even cable tv is bound by certain taboos...and there are no restrictions like that in the comics - they get really dark, so dark the darkest moments of the tv series seem like a vacation.
Oh, as for Neegan - the only 2 differences I saw were that the comicbook Neegan was clean shaven and used a ton of profanity, other than that ? His monologue was almost verbatim picked from the comics.
Yac.
Since we've only had 12 minutes of Negan, I'd say comics Negan and show Negan are pretty f-ing similar so far. The only f-ing difference is that network censors won't f-ing allow allow Negan to use his trademark F word on TV. F--- F--- F--- for good measure.
Comics - no Daryl, no Sasha, Sophia and Andrea are still alive, Carol is dead. Andrea and Rick had hooked up, not Michonne and Rick. Tyreese was Rick's right hand man on the show and not some peacenik. Abraham later became Rick's new right hand man after the Governor executed Tyreese.
TV Show: The Governor was a smaller hispanic guy in the comics, while he was a towering white guy on the TV show. (I think David Morrissey is like 6'5"?); Dale was cooler in the comics and got the classic "tainted meat" death that the show gave to Bob. Hershel was great on the TV show, but more like Dale in the comics and died earlier. (The last death that really got to me on the show was Hershel, even though I knew it was coming)
Agree with the moderator above - the plot is generally following the comics, other than the sidetrip back to the Atlanta hospital, though Rick's crew and the Alexandrians are much better armed than in the comics and the Saviors had very few firearms in the comics.
Another thing is, if you think the tv series is hardcore.... wait till you read the comics. Tv, even cable tv is bound by certain taboos...and there are no restrictions like that in the comics - they get really dark, so dark the darkest moments of the tv series seem like a vacation.
Which is why the show is better than the comics. Kirkman made a fortune selling gory torture porn slasher fantasy books to comic fanboy/gamer-types. Good for him, and lucky that AMC was able to take the substandard source material and make an interesting show out of it. The worst possible thing they could do at this point is let the show degenerate to the level of the comics.
Which is why the show is better than the comics. Kirkman made a fortune selling gory torture porn slasher fantasy books to comic fanboy/gamer-types. Good for him, and lucky that AMC was able to take the substandard source material and make an interesting show out of it. The worst possible thing they could do at this point is let the show degenerate to the level of the comics.
I don't see the show being any less gory than the comics, there are heads exploding everywhere, people dying getting killed, people getting shot through the head with a crossbow bolt, guts and blood everywhere and so forth. Rotting corpses, flesh falling from bones etc. All done in detailed HD, not a rather simple black and white comic style. If anything, at least regarding the gore, the tv show is much worse than the comics.
I never considered the comics "substandard", if I had to find a fault, I'd say they had a bit too much talking in them, too many characters spilling their guts (not literally for a change ) about things they like/don't like, long rick rants about leadership etc. but that's it. I was never a fan of "gory torture porn slasher fantasy",whatever that genre might be, and I did enjoy the comics very much. Not because of this alleged torturefest, but because it held no punches. The world in the tv show is sometimes a bit naive, the one in the comics is brutal and unforgiving.
(The following contains spoilers, so if you want to avoid that, stop reading now )
A good example is the scene where rick and carl get captured and carl almost gets raped. The show had a desperate rick, biting through a guys throat, crazy and covered in blood. The comics had much less "action" but a longer, more terrifying buildup, observing the characters when they realized what was going to happen..
Another good example is the whole Terminus/The hunters story arc. It was the tv show that had people getting their throats slit over a bathtub, being left to dry, the show presented us with a whole butcher shop for cannibals etc. The comics had none of that.
I have to ask, have you actually read the comics ? Or are you basing what you write on some opinion piece you read somewhere ? Because I can safely say I disagree 100% with what you claim
I don't see the show being any less gory than the comics, there are heads exploding everywhere, people dying getting killed, people getting shot through the head with a crossbow bolt, guts and blood everywhere and so forth. Rotting corpses, flesh falling from bones etc. All done in detailed HD, not a rather simple black and white comic style. If anything, at least regarding the gore, the tv show is much worse than the comics.
The whole question is, what purpose does the gore serve? It makes sense that there are rotting corpses walking around and that you could potentially grab the hair of one trying to bite you (as Carol recently did) and the whole damn scalp would come off because it was so rotten. It's a small detail, but it adds a lot of realism. Yes, we have to "suspend disbelief" about the existence of the walkers, but they may as well be as detail oriented with regard to their condition as possible. Frankly, one bone to pick that I have is the fact that we've yet to see walkers that have rotted to the point that they can no longer stand or move, which would presumably happen.
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The world in the tv show is sometimes a bit naive, the one in the comics is brutal and unforgiving. (The following contains spoilers, so if you want to avoid that, stop reading now )
A good example is the scene where rick and carl get captured and carl almost gets raped. The show had a desperate rick, biting through a guys throat, crazy and covered in blood. The comics had much less "action" but a longer, more terrifying buildup, observing the characters when they realized what was going to happen.
I agree-the whole Rick neck biting thing was a potential shark jumping moment and a low point in general.
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Another good example is the whole Terminus/The hunters story arc. It was the tv show that had people getting their throats slit over a bathtub, being left to dry, the show presented us with a whole butcher shop for cannibals etc. The comics had none of that.
I actually found the whole Terminus storyline to be very plausible. I could see people resorting to that type of society given the situation. As I pointed out in another thread, Terminus, not unlike Alexandria, was a relatively small group with a strong leader, governed by group consensus. What they did was horrifying, but it was believable and told a story.
Negan's group (and his character), on the other hand just seem like purely cartoonish villainry, complete with most of the members (Negan included) resembling the Hell's Angels B Team. I will say though that it seems as though Negan's group has become much more formidable in the TV show than in the comics. I believe that in the comics they number less than 100, whereas the season finale would have us believe that Negan commands a small army of followers with access to untold numbers of vehicles, heavy equipment, fuel stores, weapons, ammunition, etc...and that they have some kind of reliable long distance communication network. One guy with baseball bat simply could not control all of that. The only explanation for this over the top portrayal of Negan and his group, complete with all of the skull bashing, face burning, and (insert horrible way to kill/maim someone here) is to throw redmeat to the fanboys who "can't wait to see it happen on TV..."
A main difference are character deaths. For example, in the comic Tyreese dies before Lori and Lori dies after she gives birth to Judith. And Judith dies, too. In the live series Tyreese is introduced after Lori dies. Shane dies near the beginning of the comic book series and is shot by Carl, not Rick. Andrea is still alive. Beth also seems younger in the books, perhaps early teens.
Which is why the show is better than the comics. Kirkman made a fortune selling gory torture porn slasher fantasy books to comic fanboy/gamer-types. Good for him, and lucky that AMC was able to take the substandard source material and make an interesting show out of it. The worst possible thing they could do at this point is let the show degenerate to the level of the comics.
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The whole question is, what purpose does the gore serve? It makes sense that there are rotting corpses walking around and that you could potentially grab the hair of one trying to bite you (as Carol recently did) and the whole damn scalp would come off because it was so rotten. It's a small detail, but it adds a lot of realism. Yes, we have to "suspend disbelief" about the existence of the walkers, but they may as well be as detail oriented with regard to their condition as possible. Frankly, one bone to pick that I have is the fact that we've yet to see walkers that have rotted to the point that they can no longer stand or move, which would presumably happen.
I agree-the whole Rick neck biting thing was a potential shark jumping moment and a low point in general.
I actually found the whole Terminus storyline to be very plausible. I could see people resorting to that type of society given the situation. As I pointed out in another thread, Terminus, not unlike Alexandria, was a relatively small group with a strong leader, governed by group consensus. What they did was horrifying, but it was believable and told a story.
Negan's group (and his character), on the other hand just seem like purely cartoonish villainry, complete with most of the members (Negan included) resembling the Hell's Angels B Team. I will say though that it seems as though Negan's group has become much more formidable in the TV show than in the comics. I believe that in the comics they number less than 100, whereas the season finale would have us believe that Negan commands a small army of followers with access to untold numbers of vehicles, heavy equipment, fuel stores, weapons, ammunition, etc...and that they have some kind of reliable long distance communication network. One guy with baseball bat simply could not control all of that. The only explanation for this over the top portrayal of Negan and his group, complete with all of the skull bashing, face burning, and (insert horrible way to kill/maim someone here) is to throw redmeat to the fanboys who "can't wait to see it happen on TV..."
Wish I could give you more reps, you made great poi ts and distinctions all around.
I absolutely love the show and I have been a fan since the beginning in 2010. I love the fact that the show has it's own story line and has not followed the comic books. I am so looking forward to season 7. I am just a die hard fan.
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) about things they like/don't like, long rick rants about leadership etc. but that's it. I was never a fan of "gory torture porn slasher fantasy",whatever that genre might be, and I did enjoy the comics very much. Not because of this alleged torturefest, but because it held no punches. The world in the tv show is sometimes a bit naive, the one in the comics is brutal and unforgiving. 
