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View Poll Results: What will puerto rico's status be?
Statehood 15 51.72%
Status quo (commonwealth) 9 31.03%
Ela soberano (like Palau, it would be an independant country, but allied with the usa) 3 10.34%
Independance 2 6.90%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Would spanish still be the main language of society, the government, and public education in the far future (50-100 years and beyond)?

Santorum: English Before Statehood
The issue of language comes up every time the status is debated. Every time someone tries to insert a provision that English be required as a condition of statehood and every time it has been voted down on the floor.

For example the "English only" provision of HR2499 (Puerto Rico Democracy Act of 2010) was rejected 301-100.

Puerto Ricans will never stop speaking Spanish, just like they will never give up their US citizenship ... it is a part of who they are.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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The issue of language comes up every time the status is debated. Every time someone tries to insert a provision that English be required as a condition of statehood and every time it has been voted down on the floor.

For example the "English only" provision of HR2499 (Puerto Rico Democracy Act of 2010) was rejected 301-100.

Puerto Ricans will never stop speaking Spanish, just like they will never give up their US citizenship ... it is a part of who they are.
Yeah, but all other states had to... I want Puerto Rico to speak spanish in the government and education mainly. They should be bilingual.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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Eventually it will become a US state, along with the Virgin Islands. Why it's not a state yet is due to a couple reasons:

1-Current PR politics have a group in charge who are not interested in becoming a state and want to become a commonwealth at best.

2-PR has a lot of poverty still, especially in San Juan. Some parts look almost 3rd world, this is not up to 1st world standards to become a US state.

3-If PR becomes a state (which eventually they will) English will become the main language and not Spanish. I know most people in PR speak English as well, but they still take pride in their native Spanish and want it to remain the dominant language.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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Eventually it will become a US state, along with the Virgin Islands. Why it's not a state yet is due to a couple reasons:

1-Current PR politics have a group in charge who are not interested in becoming a state and want to become a commonwealth at best.

2-PR has a lot of poverty still, especially in San Juan. Some parts look almost 3rd world, this is not up to 1st world standards to become a US state.

3-If PR becomes a state (which eventually they will) English will become the main language and not Spanish. I know most people in PR speak English as well, but they still take pride in their native Spanish and want it to remain the dominant language.
How do you know english will be the main language? Sources? As a matter of fact, the government will let them remain using Spanish.

* State of Puerto Rico would be able to conduct all business in Spanish as "Louisiana conducted state affairs in French for many years, New Mexico has been bilingual for much of it's history, and today Hawaii is officially bilingual"

Sen. Ron Wyden talks status - [domain blocked due to spam]

And here's another article on the subject.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/johns...ge-puerto-rico

"According to a Spanish translation of the interview posted on El Vocero’s Web site, Santorum said that “as in any other state, (Puerto Rico) should comply with this and every other federal law -- and that is that English must be the main language.”

It was unclear to which law Santorum was referring. No federal law stipulates a linguistic requirement as a condition for statehood."

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/el...BKFS_blog.html


Do you still think english will be the main language now?
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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1) Poverty is not a guideline for a territory to be admitted in the union, if that's the case many territories that are states today would have been rejected since many territories were poor by today's standards. Some cities in the U.S. today look like 3rd world. They look at potential and population. Puerto Rico with 4 million U.S. Citizens in the island exceed the population requirement , that's 5 times more than all 37 territories that were accepted in the union.


2) Once Puerto Rico becomes a state they will have full representation and political power to get government and private investors to help the economy. That's the benefits of becoming a state. That's the reason 37 territories that are states today applied for statehood and didn't stay a territory. Puerto Rico can't do that with the current status that keeps them in limbo of being part of the U.S. but not integrated in the system. That's like being a part-time worker or temp worker, you can't really grow in a company under that status.


3) Puerto Rico will always speak spanish regardless of statehood because the natives are the majority in the island not the minority. The majority in any place will always dictate culture, traditions, religion and language. You have 4 million natives in an island of 130 x 35 miles, that means there is no space for outsiders to come in millions and make the natives the minority and dictate the culture and language, not for the next 100 years or more.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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1) Poverty is not a guideline for a territory to be admitted in the union, if that's the case many territories that are states today would have been rejected since many territories were poor by today's standards. Some cities in the U.S. today look like 3rd world. They look at potential and population. Puerto Rico with 4 million U.S. Citizens in the island exceed the population requirement , that's 5 times more than all 37 territories that were accepted in the union.


2) Once Puerto Rico becomes a state they will have full representation and political power to get government and private investors to help the economy. That's the benefits of becoming a state. That's the reason 37 territories that are states today applied for statehood and didn't stay a territory. Puerto Rico can't do that with the current status that keeps them in limbo of being part of the U.S. but not integrated in the system. That's like being a part-time worker or temp worker, you can't really grow in a company under that status.


3) Puerto Rico will always speak spanish regardless of statehood because the natives are the majority in the island not the minority. The majority in any place will always dictate culture, traditions, religion and language. You have 4 million natives in an island of 130 x 35 miles, that means there is no space for outsiders to come in millions and make the natives the minority and dictate the culture and language, not for the next 100 years or more.
1: okay
2: Puerto Rico currently gets no income tax.
3: I'm not sure if they will. Would state government ALWAYS run in Spanish? Even 100 years after statehood? Like would the pr House of Representatives function mostly in Spanish? And would schools be mostly Spanish? Read these.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/johns...ge-puerto-rico
Do you speak English? - Caribbean Business
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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I don't know how business will be run in the pr House of Representative 100 years from now, who knows......they would run it bilingual my guess . Is not that hard to speak 2 languages.....in this global economy it will be mandatory to dominate at least 2 languages especially the geography of P.R. to the U.S. and latin countries.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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I don't know how business will be run in the pr House of Representative 100 years from now, who knows......they would run it bilingual my guess . Is not that hard to speak 2 languages.....in this global economy it will be mandatory to dominate at least 2 languages especially the geography of P.R. to the U.S. and latin countries.
But the island would be as Spanish as Sweden is swedish? Almost all swedes speak English.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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But the island would be as Spanish as Sweden is swedish? Almost all swedes speak English.
Ethnic Swedes still communicate almost exclusively in Swedish in domestic affairs, except up north where the indigenous Sami languages are spoken to some degree, and eastern Sweden where small pockets of Finnish are spoken.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:16 PM
 
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Ethnic Swedes still communicate almost exclusively in Swedish in domestic affairs, except up north where the indigenous Sami languages are spoken to some degree, and eastern Sweden where small pockets of Finnish are spoken.
But will it be the same for Puerto Rico? "Ethnic Puerto Ricans still communicate almost exclusively in Spanish in domestic affairs" would this statement be accurate in 100 years? If it becomes a state?
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