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Old 04-27-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Over There
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... and when I asked him if he planned on filing for UI he said "I don't know why because I won't get it anyway."

. . . he clocked the other guy in even though the other guy wasn't at work. . . . He worked there for about 18 months. . . . he might be eligible for UI . . .
Your friend MIGHT be right: he may be ineligible. I don't know if his infraction will be counted as gross misconduct or an isolated incident. He should check with an attorney. It looks like we have one on this thread. ^^

"Claimants who received a termination for what the state defines as 'gross misconduct' lose all wage credits, which determine financial eligibility for benefits, that they had accrued on that job."


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Old 04-27-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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I must ask OP, what the heck possessed your friend to do an idiotic thing like that?
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I'll bet several other employees were smart enough to refuse to do what your friend did. No matter how it turns out, one would need to be an idiot to attempt this.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Wow.
In some states, one does pay into it. Some have paid all their lives. Different people just get their Money back At Different Times. This isn't welfare. This is what we're entitled to.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: California
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In some states, one does pay into it. Some have paid all their lives. Different people just get their Money back At Different Times. This isn't welfare. This is what we're entitled to.
A total of 3 states have employees pay into it. And someone making 40k per year pays about $30 per year. Let's say you work for 50 years...you pay a whopping $1500 or about one month's or benefits.

You are not entitled to anything.

I love how people come on here to make a big deal that they pay into it...with no idea how little they actually pay. Would love to see the state of NJ limit the benefits of those people to the money they are so positive they have paid...guessing they will all change their tune REALLY quickly, to someone who states it is not enough.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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A total of 3 states have employees pay into it. And someone making 40k per year pays about $30 per year. Let's say you work for 50 years...you pay a whopping $1500 or about one month's or benefits.

You are not entitled to anything.

I love how people come on here to make a big deal that they pay into it...with no idea how little they actually pay. Would love to see the state of NJ limit the benefits of those people to the money they are so positive they have paid...guessing they will all change their tune REALLY quickly, to someone who states it is not enough.
provost was right. You are just a 1-sided hr manager. Nobody pays Only $30 A Year in NJ. I have friends there who pay more. And yes, by law, they are entitled To This. Yes, 3 states have this....PA (my original state), NJ, and AK.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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That is the employer's burden to prove. Plenty of people collect for no other reason than they keep their mouth shut, and their employer's do a lousy job fighting the claim, and since the employer gets stuck with the first 26-weeks cost of the claim, that's on them if they let it happen.
You are awesome! Unlike the rabbit, you DO try to find every possible avenue, or angle to help someone in need, and this is much appreciated. Unlike that other poster I mentioned who is a HR manager, you understand what it's like from a worker's point of view. Appreciate your help that you and Ariadne (and others) routinely provide on here free of charge to claimants. Kudos!
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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you DO try to find every possible avenue, or angle to help someone in need, and this is much appreciated.
Someone who knowingly steals from their company should not equal "someone in need". "Someone in need" should be someone who is out of work due to no fault of their own. Finding angles and loopholes for theives only ups the cost of these programs for all people.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Someone who knowingly steals from their company should not equal "someone in need". "Someone in need" should be someone who is out of work due to no fault of their own. Finding angles and loopholes for theives only ups the cost of these programs for all people.
What're u a goodie-2 shoes? Not me. Everyone makes errors in judgement, and I'm all about working the angles.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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What're u a goodie-2 shoes? Not me. Everyone makes errors in judgement, and I'm all about working the angles.
I am far from a "goodie two-shoes", and I make many errors in judgement. But, when I do, I accept the consequences, which allows me to learn from my mistakes. "Working the angles" to avoid consequences affords no one the opportunity to learn. If the OP's friend does get unemployment benefits, why in the world would he even think twice about stealing again? No consequences.
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