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Old 11-21-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Seriously you never looked around you at our planet and didn't think something or someone put this together. Our planet happens to be tilted in the right direction, at the perfect distance from the sun, with a magnetic shield emitting from the earth's core, and were supplied with oxygen, water and nutrients.

How concidential is that? This was all a big concidence how we came into existence. We some how met these impossible requirements to have life on our planet. Where did that strand of dna that seperates us from animals come from? Scientist don't know. But they do know it didn't occur naturally. How did water get here. All scientist know for sure water itself is extraterrestial and they theorize that water came from an asteroid.
If life on this planet was engineered, then who engineered the engineers? Who engineered those engineers? That could just keep going on forever. Point is, life had to start somewhere AND evolve naturally, in just the right conditions, no matter how coincidental it may all seem to be. Why can't these same coincidences happen multiple times on multiple worlds? (I do believe there is other life in the universe after all, just not necessarily that we are evolved or descended from them, nor engineered by them).

As for the water thing, it had to come from somewhere, right? The Earth itself is extra terrestrial if you think about it! Every single atom on this planet is ultimately the product of stars, sent outward into space during supernovae.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Who says something which evolved in a methane ocean would have any interest in it?
Excellent! I always thought of this myself. Who is to say what is healthy to us isn't lethal to an ET, and vice versa?
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Just wanted to say:

* I would not be surprised in the least if we found solid proof that extraterrestrials visited here "back in the day". Why not? For all we know there is a tourist industry out there based on visiting "backward" alien cultures. Or the races that visited, which could include humans who were left behind as prisoners? researchers? colonists? , weren't really visiting but were transport-related businesses simply making a pit stop for supplies like water and such and while they were waiting for those tasks to be completed went & visited the natives. And if they were - or are - anything like us, there was bound to be some jokers in the group that wanted to mess with our backwards human heads and purposely walked around in their spacesuits and flourished various tools and other common gear simply to blow our little minds, knowing full well legends, paintings, etc would be the result. "As the space truckers pulled out of orbit and sat around the mess table sampling the fruit called apple, they all shared a hearty laugh at the thought of the easily-impressed humans below scurrying around trying to find a smooth cave wall on which to draw the gods from the sky."

* those cave wall drawings, cathedral paintings etc: unless it is just an ENORMOUS coincidence that those ancient artists drew random shapes that just happened to look like spacesuits, helmets, saucers and other space-oriented craft, those pieces of art seem to back up the theory that we were visited by someone not-of-this-earth.

* while he was caught embellishing his story with modern fakes, von Daniken's Chariots Of The Gods? semi-documentary does present some thought provoking & common-sense ideas that are not nutty/crazy/etc. BTW this doc can be usually found in its entirety on Youtube (btw image quality is sucky even on the dvd version - IIRC it was filmed using 16mm film & on a low budget but most of the photography itself is actually quite good. And the soundtrack is really groovy cool, you can listen to it via streaming here).

* there are just way WAY too many stars and galaxies out there to completely dismiss the idea of other races existing beyound our own system

* faster-than-light travel: why not? 200 years ago who would have thought a Regular Joe person could afford to buy a "magical" device small enough to fit in a pocket and use it to communicate with another person - voice and image - on the other side of the earth, play games with animated birds and record pictures of the world around them and then send them via invisible "waves" to a buddy a 100 miles away?
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:39 PM
 
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I wonder how many poor souls are out night after night looking for the coming collision with Nibiru .
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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I just can't believe in this day in age people will believe in a magical voice in the sky over everday physics and technology.
Well believe it as it's called religion
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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not part of the video, but elsewhere in Nevada a 10 foot tall skeletoon, and an 8.5 foot tall skeleton had been found
Where are these skeletons being displayed?
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Capital Hill
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"Ancient Aliens is an American television series that premiered on April 20, 2010 on the History channel.[1] Produced by Prometheus Entertainment, the program presents theories of ancient astronauts and proposes that historical texts, archaeology and legends contain evidence of past human-extraterrestrial contact"

Ancient Aliens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


YouTube - Ancient Aliens S02E02 - Gods and Aliens

I 100% believe in this theory. What do you guys think?
It is not wise to believe 100% on any theory. We will perhaps never know the truth about ancient history or how our ancient ancestors came on earth. Always be sceptical but have an open mind.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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How do you know they didn't? It's called top secret. Seriously you never looked around you at our planet and didn't think something or someone put this together. Our planet happens to be tilted in the right direction, at the perfect distance from the sun, with a magnetic shield emitting from the earth's core, and were supplied with oxygen, water and nutrients.

How concidential is that? This was all a big concidence how we came into existence. We some how met these impossible requirements to have life on our planet. Where did that strand of dna that seperates us from animals come from? Scientist don't know. But they do know it didn't occur naturally. How did water get here. All scientist know for sure water itself is extraterrestial and they theorize that water came from an asteroid.

This is the world around you! You don't need to watch the show to see the signs that we weren't the first intelligent lifeform and we might be descendants of another human like species.

Your saying this theory is impossible when not to long ago a man traveled to the moon. We have satellites floating around in the sky. So no its not impossible to leave from one planet to another.

Finally you people have absolutely no clue or couldn't even begin to fathom what other elements, enviroments or resources another species could have utilized in the universe to create technology.

Scientist just discovered anti matter and dark matter. Imagine what other elements is out there? What other metals is out there? Hell there could be organic metals out there for all we know..

I believe in anti gravity technology.


Your rebuttal to my post makes for a weak argument supporting the theory that we've been visited by intelligent life from other planets.
You mention the fact that our Earth is just the right distance from the Sun so as to provide Life. Well, yeah, of course it is, or we wouldn't be here. Cosmologists call this "The Goldilocks Effect." When you have trillions and trillions of planets out there, the Law of Very Large Numbers dictates that even if one out of a million is orbiting the exact necessary distance from it's star so as to provide conditions condicuve to Life, then you're gonna have billions of life-friendly planets.
So, sure, I believe that we are not alone in the Universe. Most likely there IS intelligent Life out there somewhere. But the problem with the theory that we've been visited by any of it is the vast distances involved. Even travelling at the speed of light--which is unfathomable to us at present--it would take someone over four years to reach Earth form the nearest planetary system (besides our own of course), Alpha Proxima & Alpha Centauri. And we've already discerned that that system is unfit for life.
The rest of the planets are mind-numbingly far away from us.
So, now is when you're gonna comeback with the old "Speed-of-Light space travel may be unthinkable to us, but maybe not for an advanced civilization from somewhere else that is way ahead of us technologically!"
Well, OK. then, again: where is the proof of their visitation? If someone advanced enough to master the speed of light travel necessary to visit us was here, couldn't they leave us something a bit more tangible then the, well, basically zero evidence we have now?
And as far as your statement that we have only recently discovered stuff like Dark Energy and anti-matter (actually about 20 years ago) is again, hardly persuasive for the ET visitation theory. Just because we don't know all there is to know about Cosmology and our place in the Universe does not increase the probability that we've been visited.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
Your claim of past ET visits is, to us Earthlings, extraordinary, since most of us have abvsolutely no trouble explaining how the ancients built things.
Yet, not only do you have zero extraordinary evidence of their visit, you have no evidence whatsoever.

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Old 11-08-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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Your rebuttal to my post makes for a weak argument supporting the theory that we've been visited by intelligent life from other planets.
You mention the fact that our Earth is just the right distance from the Sun so as to provide Life. Well, yeah, of course it is, or we wouldn't be here. Cosmologists call this "The Goldilocks Effect." When you have trillions and trillions of planets out there, the Law of Very Large Numbers dictates that even if one out of a million is orbiting the exact necessary distance from it's star so as to provide conditions condicuve to Life, then you're gonna have billions of life-friendly planets.
So, sure, I believe that we are not alone in the Universe. Most likely there IS intelligent Life out there somewhere. But the problem with the theory that we've been visited by any of it is the vast distances involved. Even travelling at the speed of light--which is unfathomable to us at present--it would take someone over four years to reach Earth form the nearest planetary system (besides our own of course), Alpha Proxima & Alpha Centauri. And we've already discerned that that system is unfit for life.
The rest of the planets are mind-numbingly far away from us.
So, now is when you're gonna comeback with the old "Speed-of-Light space travel may be unthinkable to us, but maybe not for an advanced civilization from somewhere else that is way ahead of us technologically!"
Well, OK. then, again: where is the proof of their visitation? If someone advanced enough to master the speed of light travel necessary to visit us was here, couldn't they leave us something a bit more tangible then the, well, basically zero evidence we have now?
And as far as your statement that we have only recently discovered stuff like Dark Energy and anti-matter (actually about 20 years ago) is again, hardly persuasive for the ET visitation theory. Just because we don't know all there is to know about Cosmology and our place in the Universe does not increase the probability that we've been visited.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
Your claim of past ET visits is, to us Earthlings, extraordinary, since most of us have abvsolutely no trouble explaining how the ancients built things.
Yet, not only do you have zero extraordinary evidence of their visit, you have no evidence whatsoever.
I laugh so hard at the naysayers like this. These are the people that thought the world was flat. Watch the episode on Puma Punku. They clearly show that according to our so called experts on history and science that going by the technology they had at the time it was basically impossible for them to build something like Puma Punku. Also the people that still think the great pyramid was a tomb even though they never found any mummies in it or any heiroglyphs are hilarious. Head in the sand anyone? I agree some of the episodes are a little silly and tongue in cheek maybe but there are about 10 episodes or so that blow the experts and know it alls out of the water. There are way too many things that can't be explained. We are a created race and they never found the missing link. That doesn't mean evolution isn't a part of us...it definitely is. It explains all the old religions and matches up with everything they believed. We are partially from this earth and partially something from another part of the universe.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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"Ancient Aliens is an American television series that premiered on April 20, 2010 on the History channel.[1] Produced by Prometheus Entertainment, the program presents theories of ancient astronauts and proposes that historical texts, archaeology and legends contain evidence of past human-extraterrestrial contact"

Ancient Aliens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


YouTube - Ancient Aliens S02E02 - Gods and Aliens

I 100% believe in this theory. What do you guys think?
I believe in the paranormal and UFOs but this show is mind-numbingly dumb. Please don't build your world around it because 99% of it is pure bunk.
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