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Old 09-04-2019, 11:03 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Today, I really dont feel like taking a whole lot of stick from the science/space forum members, so I post it here for discussion. We have had threads on other strange things on Mars, so to me, this looks like steam or smoke rising from the ground. In my mind, the 'smoke' continues after the top of the rock so I do not see it as the separation of a large rock and a small rock.

Currently, I cannot see anything else when I look at this, so maybe someone can suggest what it might actually be.

As you can see, there are 2 dark rocks in the background. The one on the left at its right hand end appears to have a white streak going diagonally up to the right.
Enlarged greatly, it looks like this:


NASA originals here
(details)
(image left)
(image right)

Other images of the rock in question
(Right Navcam camera)
(Left Navcam camera)
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Old 09-05-2019, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Today, I really dont feel like taking a whole lot of stick from the science/space forum members, so I post it here for discussion. We have had threads on other strange things on Mars, so to me, this looks like steam or smoke rising from the ground. In my mind, the 'smoke' continues after the top of the rock so I do not see it as the separation of a large rock and a small rock.

Currently, I cannot see anything else when I look at this, so maybe someone can suggest what it might actually be.

As you can see, there are 2 dark rocks in the background. The one on the left at its right hand end appears to have a white streak going diagonally up to the right.
Enlarged greatly, it looks like this:


NASA originals here
(details)
(image left)
(image right)

Other images of the rock in question
(Right Navcam camera)
(Left Navcam camera)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8lfJ0c7WQ8
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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It's hard to tell. When it's blown up, it's so grainy or pixelated you can't really tell what you're seeing. The original pictures seem to show that whatever it is is quite small, so I don't think it's a dust devil. Steam vent is as good as anything. You'd have to have a much closer up image to tell much. Things that look suspicious in long distant or enlarged photos tend to look like something entirely different when you get a truly detailed picture.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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It's really not clear to make any conclusions, but best guess is:
It's not really a "white streak". The entire photo is full of light and dark, based on the angle of the rock and sand surface - some of which is catching the light of the sun, some of which is in the shadow. You are simply seeing a natural jutting out of the rock that catches the light of the sun. Notice it's slightly darker on the bottom of the "streak" which is consistent with the rest of the photo and what would be the angle of the suns rays.
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Old 09-06-2019, 03:17 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Notice it's slightly darker on the bottom of the "streak" which is consistent with the rest of the photo and what would be the angle of the suns rays.
However, it is also consistent with the smoke in partial shadow or the smoke being a darker color and looking whiter as it rises as well.

Is it unlikely there is smoke on Mars? Yes, of course. Is it more likely it is a natural feature of the landscape? Yes, of course.

But you still have many people who believe there is a huge conspiracy going on, where NASA and the government are not being straight with us over many things. Organizations have to earn trust and many people would say both have not demonstrated that.
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Old 09-06-2019, 04:28 AM
 
Location: PRC
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There are a few different examples of 'something' coming out of rocks on Mars.

I realise these are physically small examples and I dont know why they would be. I can only think
a) these are natural rock/ground features and not smoke/steam at all.
b) these are some kind of gas/steam coming out of the Martian ground
c) there is steam/vapour coming from the rock when they heat up under the sunlight.

Anyway, here you go...

Mars from Spirit Sol 1039 official links and cuts from them
(Left navcam camera)

Left Navcam (link above)


(Right navcam camera)

Right Navcam (link above)

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Old 09-06-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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However, it is also consistent with the smoke in partial shadow or the smoke being a darker color and looking whiter as it rises as well.

Is it unlikely there is smoke on Mars? Yes, of course. Is it more likely it is a natural feature of the landscape? Yes, of course.

But you still have many people who believe there is a huge conspiracy going on, where NASA and the government are not being straight with us over many things. Organizations have to earn trust and many people would say both have not demonstrated that.
Not sure what you mean about "smoke". Dude it's like the "human face on mars" rock from a few years back that everyone made a big deal over. Turns out it was a trick of light and shadow. From another angle it looked totally different.
https://www.space.com/17191-face-on-mars.html

I am sure conspiracy theories do exist in regards to NASA, etc. but it's an extreme element of society that, because of blogs and social media, have a voice...just like other extremists views (fortunately this one is less harmful and somewhat more entertaining). .
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Maine
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As you can see, there are 2 dark rocks in the background. The one on the left at its right hand end appears to have a white streak going diagonally up to the right.
It's pretty obviously one of Marvin's Insta-Martians about to step out from behind that rock.

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Old 09-07-2019, 05:02 AM
 
Location: PRC
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It's pretty obviously one of Marvin's Insta-Martians about to step out from behind that rock.
So glad you finally turned up !

Now, offer an opinion as to what this shows.
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Old 09-07-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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So glad you finally turned up !

Now, offer an opinion as to what this shows.
I gave you an opinion but you ignored it. Dust devils are not all the same size or shape. They can appear resembling smoke.

What are you looking for; little green men burning rocks? You want to steer this in the one direction of 'unexplainable' and you want to overlook reasonable explanations.
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