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Old 10-22-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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I think there is a similarity about how many british and American proplr see their own ancestry opposed to Continental Europeans. For example Brits often look how much Norman, viking, anglo-saxon, etc ancestry they have, the same way americans claim their british, Irish, German, italian ancestries over and over.

Other people like french, dutch, germans, never speak about ancestry in that way and only consider themselves ethnic-french, german and dutch respectively.

Does someone agree with that? I think the anglospheric world have a very different view of ancestry and race compared to the rest of the world (specially compared to Europe).
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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I think there is a similarity about how many british and American proplr see their own ancestry opposed to Continental Europeans. For example Brits often look how much Norman, viking, anglo-saxon, etc ancestry they have, the same way americans claim their british, Irish, German, italian ancestries over and over.

Other people like french, dutch, germans, never speak about ancestry in that way and only consider themselves ethnic-french, german and dutch respectively.

Does someone agree with that? I think the anglospheric world have a very different view of ancestry and race compared to the rest of the world (specially compared to Europe).
Actually I disagree - most Britain's have ancestry from somewhere other than Britain but Britain's wouldn't dream of actually considering themselves as something other than.........well British! ie black Britain's don't call themselves 'African British' anybody British called O'Leary don't call themselves 'Irish British', I think this attitude is very different to the American one - I am not saying either attitude is right or wrong but just definitely different.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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That isn't true. I don't care much about my ancestry, and know nobody who does. If someone has, say, Pakistani or Jamaican parents, they may associate with Jamaica or Pakistan, but they would still be more likely to call themselves British above all else. I've actually never met anyone - regardless of their ancestry - who calls themselves 'Irish' because they have Irish ancestry, or Jamaican because they have Jamaican ancestry. Heck, I have both, but it isn't relevant to me. I am British. The whole idea is completely bizarre to me.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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I think it is more an American thing and doesn't seem to happen in other countries. Even in Australia people usually call themselves Australian especially if born here. Irish-Australian or Italian-Australian is not much used here in my experience.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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As the others have noted, the obsession with ancestry is a very American thing. Probably due to being a fairly modern immigrant society.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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It seems pretty obvious that they don't. For instance at the very least 10% of Britons are of Irish ancestry but only about 1% of the population answers "white Irish" on the census for the ethnicity question.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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What about the Use of the term "White" in UK and the US, UK census use the word "white british", and the US uses the term "white american". Nowhere in continental europe people use "white french" or "white german" etc, they just recognize "ethnic german", "ethnic dutch", "ethnic french" ,etc. The use of labels such as "white" or "white people" is definitely an anglospheric term, I have never met an european who called himself white or considered this or that white or non-white, they just care of their nationality, unlilke Americans and to lesser extent brits.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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I think there is a similarity about how many british and American proplr see their own ancestry opposed to Continental Europeans. For example Brits often look how much Norman, viking, anglo-saxon, etc ancestry they have, the same way americans claim their british, Irish, German, italian ancestries over and over.

Other people like french, dutch, germans, never speak about ancestry in that way and only consider themselves ethnic-french, german and dutch respectively.

Does someone agree with that? I think the anglospheric world have a very different view of ancestry and race compared to the rest of the world (specially compared to Europe).
Is think it's almost entirely a USA thing.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:02 AM
 
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Is think it's almost entirely a USA thing.
Brits also Emphasize about their norman, viking and anglo-saxon ancestry, the same way americans emphasize how much british and specially germand and Irish they are (the most overstated ethnicities by far).

Many brits cant simply say they are english, scottish or welsh without having to mention they think they have important norman, viking, etc ancestry. The same way can be said by americans claiming certain nationalities they are not.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Brits also Emphasize about their norman, viking and anglo-saxon ancestry, the same way americans emphasize how much british and specially germand and Irish they are (the most overstated ethnicities by far).

Many brits cant simply say they are english, scottish or welsh without having to mention they think they have important norman, viking, etc ancestry. The same way can be said by americans claiming certain nationalities they are not.
Well I am half English (my mum was born in England) and lived in the country for a number of years, I could be entirely wrong but never have i heard a Brit talking about their Viking or Norman Ancestry.
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