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Old 07-16-2014, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Bretagne, FRANCE
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France wasn't bombed, it surrendered rather see Paris destroyed.
Of course France was bombed. By the Allies.

Bombing of France during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 07-17-2014, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Were are you getting your information? I think you're talking out of your....

You're confused (by reading/quoting the Mail) with one of Keynes colleagues. And its misquoted, but any excuse right
No I am not confused and it's documented here in Andrew Marr's - 'A History of Modern Britain' and was also highlighted on Marr's BBC series of the same name, in the episode 'Advance Britannia' and was recently discussed in the Radio 4 Programme The Special Relationship: Uncovered, on BBC Radio 4 at 8pm, on Monday, June 23, 2014', and in the newspaper piece. It was Keynes and wasn't one of his colleagues and you can read about it here.

A History of Modern Britain - Andrew Marr - Google Books

BBC Radio 4 - The Special Relationship: Uncovered

Uncovered: American duplicity that finally explodes the myth of a 'Special Relationship': How US discussed 'blasting the hell' out of UK forces in the Suez Crisis... and other shameful betrayals of our historic alliance | Mail Online

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Old 07-17-2014, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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The thread is about was the UK impoverished, not about whether John Maynard Keynes was or was not involved in the final negotiations for War loans from the US, or about the bombing of France by the Allies (who also sank the French Navy in North Africa too).

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Old 07-17-2014, 01:36 AM
 
Location: London
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Right. Asked my husband who was 19 years old in 1967 and he says things had improved a lot by then. He was living in Glasgow, owned a car and tv.
MY family bought a TV directly after WW2 as BBC started up again. By 1960s most homes had a TV. Many did not have cars as they had no need for them and/or could not drive. The high petrol price also were also put off.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:30 AM
 
Location: SW France
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MY family bought a TV directly after WW2 as BBC started up again. By 1960s most homes had a TV. Many did not have cars as they had no need for them and/or could not drive. The high petrol price also were also put off.
Maybe by the late 60s?


Unusually my father was given a company car in 1959 and had to learn to drive!
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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MY family bought a TV directly after WW2 as BBC started up again. By 1960s most homes had a TV. Many did not have cars as they had no need for them and/or could not drive. The high petrol price also were also put off.
True, most did not have cars. My husband says he bought a mini for £5. He was also the only one in his scheme to go to university.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:53 AM
 
Location: England
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I guess the truth of it, is that 1967 in Britain was a mixed picture. Most were doing ok, and their standard of living was on the up. Some were still living in what we would describe today, as pretty primitive conditions.

My grandmother, like she had done all her life. was still living in a two up, two down old row house. She had a outside toilet, and a tin bath hanging on a backdoor nail. I had to live with her for a while in 1968, to the end of 1969. I'll tell ya, I was glad to get out of there!

Most of this type of old Victorian housing was demolished by the mid 70s. The area she lived in back in those days, is totally unrecognizable now. What was once an old cotton mill, and hundreds of tiny row houses, is now streets of modern bungalows.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:03 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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The past can often seem 'impoverished' because people didn't have the same 'technology' as today. For example people talk about TV's - nobody in the 1960's had microwave ovens, ipads, home computers, laptops etc and it kind of gives the impression that people were somehow 'poorer' because they didn't have these things. I guess the truth of the matter is that Britons at that time (on average) were (amongst) the worlds richest as they are now, of course then (as now) there were many impoverished people IN Britain.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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I guess the truth of it, is that 1967 in Britain was a mixed picture. Most were doing ok, and their standard of living was on the up. Some were still living in what we would describe today, as pretty primitive conditions.

My grandmother, like she had done all her life. was still living in a two up, two down old row house. She had a outside toilet, and a tin bath hanging on a backdoor nail. I had to live with her for a while in 1968, to the end of 1969. I'll tell ya, I was glad to get out of there!

Most of this type of old Victorian housing was demolished by the mid 70s. The area she lived in back in those days, is totally unrecognizable now. What was once an old cotton mill, and hundreds of tiny row houses, is now streets of modern bungalows.
My husband grew up in Glasgow and during the 1950's his description of living conditions sounds primitive. Outdoor shared toilet. Ice on the inside of the windows in winter. Tin tubs for bathing. Etc etc.

He told me I grew up rich in the US which I seriously disagreed with but he pointed out that I grew up with central heating, a car (sometimes two), a tv, my own bed, a washer/dryer, bathroom(s), and never, ever being hungry.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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My husband grew up in Glasgow and during the 1950's his description of living conditions sounds primitive. Outdoor shared toilet. Ice on the inside of the windows in winter. Tin tubs for bathing. Etc etc.

He told me I grew up rich in the US which I seriously disagreed with but he pointed out that I grew up with central heating, a car (sometimes two), a tv, my own bed, a washer/dryer, bathroom(s), and never, ever being hungry.
In the 1950's parts of Glasgow were 'impoverished' compared to most places in the UK, even today accross the UK I bet there are kids living in similar conditions too.
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