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Old 04-04-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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I was. But was also riding a wave of hope. This is just facts - the polls have been stuck on 40/40+ for a while. And with the ''pledge'' of the 3 cronies that was swiftly (in hours) swept under the rug, a fair few people who voted no are mad about that.
Polls really don't count for much at General Elections - they've been proved wrong far too many times.
Personally I would have thought the Scots, having seen the problems caused recently by having an economic plan based solely on the price of a barrel of oil, would be less inclined to break up the Union.
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Old 04-04-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Polls really don't count for much at General Elections - they've been proved wrong far too many times.
Personally I would have thought the Scots, having seen the problems caused recently by having an economic plan based solely on the price of a barrel of oil, would be less inclined to break up the Union.
It is absolutely astonishing that so many Scots are willing to ignore economic reality and vote for financial ruin.
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Old 04-04-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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It is absolutely astonishing that so many Scots are willing to ignore economic reality and vote for financial ruin.
Fortunately there was a majority of them not taken in by the lies and deceit of the duplicitous Alex Salmond and his Jimmy Krankie puppet.
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Old 04-04-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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I'm willing to live in the dirt for a while if it means I am represented more. The status quo sounds good for you, well done. But for me, is it fv<k. work since I left school and on the same stinking wages even since.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...al-to-miliband

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Old 04-04-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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I'm willing to live in the dirt for a while if it means I am represented more. The status quo sounds good for you, well done. But for me, is it fv<k. work since I left school and on the same stinking wages even since.

Nicola Sturgeon offers new deal to help Ed Miliband into No 10 | Politics | The Guardian
Higher taxes, lower benefits and those that can will leave.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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Lower benefits than the Tories I am not on benefits anyway but not far off minimum wage. You telling me the SNP will affect the poor worse than Cameron ...... is that what you are actually saying. You aren't a person of reason, just a person stuck in their ways. We want change, change from the same old crap.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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Lower benefits than the Tories I am not on benefits anyway but not far off minimum wage. You telling me the SNP will affect the poor worse than Cameron ...... is that what you are actually saying. You aren't a person of reason, just a person stuck in their ways. We want change, change from the same old crap.
Full fiscal autonomy will lead to higher taxes and lower benefits. Right now the Union (Barnett) is worth £800 per Scot per year. That will disappear with FFA. So where is the money going to come from just to maintain the status quo? You want change, tell me how you plan to finance it.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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From not cutting billions and billions from public services maybe ............. no?

Austerity is a choice, an ideology. Doesn't need to happen and certainly not to the degree planned by the Tories, we ain't seen nothing yet if they get back in. But then I don't want Labour in a majority either. The way I see it now is vote for who you believe in, simple.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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From not cutting billions and billions from public services maybe ............. no?

Austerity is a choice, an ideology. Doesn't need to happen and certainly not to the degree planned by the Tories, we ain't seen nothing yet if they get back in. But then I don't want Labour in a majority either. The way I see it now is vote for who you believe in, simple.
So if you are going to restore billions to public services where is the money going to come from?
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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From not CUTTING.
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