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But it's their opinion. You might think "gays are a cancer" is offensive, but it's someone's belief and to them it's valid and just a generation ago was the majority opinion. All opinions should be heard, you can hate what they say and rebuke it but stifling it with threats of prosecution is totalitarian.
If the offending tweet was someone's true and honest opinion, why is it any less valid than yours? Because it makes someone sad?
If someone's opinion is derogatory and seeks to diminish and belittle entire groups of people then I do not consider it valid or useful. Do I consider such opinions less valid than my own? Yes, I certainly do. I have no time or respect for people who only want to incite hatred.
By all means, criticise Islam - I criticise all religions because I don't agree with any of them - but cricising people for something that is innate - for something they have no control over - is not really something I tolerate. Plus, criticism is different to outright hatred. I can criticise Islam by saying certain aspects of it are backwards, without insulting the people who follow it. Ditto Christianity.
Is being PC and stopping people from getting their feelings hurt more important than freedom of speech to the British people?
No, it isn't.
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Originally Posted by mr. politically incorrect
I noticed this online. My relation to Britain is a love for that country. I went to London and I was so upset that there wasn't a British thing about it besides the lady on the money. It's sad to watch a culture die.
And yes, I know the UK has other hate speech laws..which is insane. Why do the British people accept prosecution for an opinion?
I live in Baltimore yes and hate it, I'm here for my parents. The USA sucks no doubt, but the freedom to offend here is protected there has been many court cases about that. It's sad that in Britain one cannot say their opinion, offensive or sexist or homophobic or not. It's actually disgusting. If you're not inciting violence you should be able to say whatever you want.
Freedom of speech does not mean that you can just say whatever you want whenever you want and everyone else just has to deal with it. Hate speech laws in the UK are about just that; hate. To be honest, I think we have become too PC, but these laws are written to protect the rights of people to live based on who they are,without having to be preached at by some inbred delinquent (many American preachers come to mind, not to mention certain prominent people in American politics).
You really don't need to worry about it. I can assure you that the Queen's head on British currency is about the least thing cultural about London or the greater UK, now or ever.
But it's their opinion. You might think "gays are a cancer" is offensive, but it's someone's belief and to them it's valid and just a generation ago was the majority opinion. All opinions should be heard, you can hate what they say and rebuke it but stifling it with threats of prosecution is totalitarian.
If the offending tweet was someone's true and honest opinion, why is it any less valid than yours? Because it makes someone sad?
Rubbish. Your opinion is YOUR opinion. Opinions like that are better off in ones head. What is the purpose of sharing such bile if not to purposely offend?
Freedom of speech does not mean that you can just say whatever you want whenever you want and everyone else just has to deal with it. Hate speech laws in the UK are about just that; hate. To be honest, I think we have become too PC, but these laws are written to protect the rights of people to live based on who they are without having to be preached at by some inbred delinquent (many American preachers come to mind, not to mention certain prominent people in American politics).
You really don't need to worry about it. I can assure you that the Queen's head on British currency is about the least thing cultural about London or the greater UK, now or ever.
Is Hate not a valid emotion? Also how can one define hate?
One mans critical observation is another mans hate.
For instance "sub-Saharan African culture is based upon superstition and consists of violent and torturous rituals like FGM"
Is my critical opinion, an African would likely consider it hateful
"Homosexuality is a sin and gay people burn in hell" is a position held by most religions: Catholics and Muslims included. To them it is simply repeating their doctrine and beliefs, to a homosexual that would likely be hateful
Rubbish. Your opinion is YOUR opinion. Opinions like that are better off in ones head. What is the purpose of sharing such bile if not to purposely offend?
That's a slippery slope. The point of saying that would be to express how I feel, if I felt that way.
Is Hate not a valid emotion? Also how can one define hate?
One mans critical observation is another mans hate.
For instance "sub-Saharan African culture is based upon superstition and consists of violent and torturous rituals like FGM"
Is my critical opinion, an African would likely consider it hateful
"Homosexuality is a sin and gay people burn in hell" is a position held by most religions: Catholics and Muslims included. To them it is simply repeating their doctrine and beliefs, to a homosexual that would likely be hateful
Hate is a reality. How it is expressed is what we are talking a about.
Is Hate not a valid emotion? Also how can one define hate?
One mans critical observation is another mans hate.
For instance "sub-Saharan African culture is based upon superstition and consists of violent and torturous rituals like FGM"
Is my critical opinion, an African would likely consider it hateful
"Homosexuality is a sin and gay people burn in hell" is a position held by most religions: Catholics and Muslims included. To them it is simply repeating their doctrine and beliefs, to a homosexual that would likely be hateful
I am not sure how you could possibly be ok with that? if you really want to live in a free country then you should support the right for people to live how they want to. If YOU believe that being gay is wrong then don't be gay. Simple. But persecuting others, or promoting a society that persecutes others is nothing short of unacceptable.
I am not sure how you could possibly be ok with that? if you really want to live in a free country then you should support the right for people to live how they want to. If YOU believe that being gay is wrong then don't be gay. Simple. But persecuting others, or promoting a society that persecutes others is nothing short of unacceptable.
Do people in your country have the "freedom" to do class A drugs in their private lives?
Obviously not, because doing drugs is corrupting and self-destructive. And if a preacher was out in the streets condemning drug abuse as morally wrong, I doubt it'll provoke outrage about the "hatred" he has against people who want to live their lives how they want to.
Bottom line is, you don't live in a free country, by your own definition, so why have issue over other people who want to define their own boundaries of acceptable social conduct?
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