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Old 06-11-2015, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Immigration helps and benifits massively the British economy. Taking British people's jobs? The British don't want to do these jobs, hence the need for immigration. Most immigrants work harder in a week than the British do in a month. There has been thousands of studies showing the benifits of immigration.

You should really check some statistics before making up ignorant statements.
The UK has basically got a population of 70 million. I think thats enough, we don't need anymore.

Immigration is bad when the local population is replaced.

 
Old 06-11-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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People coming into this country should be asked what they have to offer.. and NOT a tabourine or accordian to sit on a pavement begging..
 
Old 06-11-2015, 08:46 AM
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Oh really?

Since you're fond of statistics, the govt's own figures will tell you that migration has been a net drain on the UK economy since the 1980's of £100bn. The UCL study covering the period 1990-2011 put the cost at £95bn. There are other studies which reach an even worse conclusion.

In the short term (an irrelevant and misleading thing to look at) migrants tend to pay in more than they take out. As the years roll on the cost racks up. That's not my opinion, it is the UK govt's own opinion, and the opinion of every official body that has conducted a study.

Unskilled/low skilled migration drives down wages and pushes up housing costs and ultimately costs the country a fortune. It is a pyramid scheme which requires more and more migrants to foot the bill for the last wave.

The only immigration Britain should seek is highly skilled people and high net worth types who spend a lot of money in our economy. Everyone else is a drain on the economy and we shouldn't be letting them in.
Do You have sources or did You just made that up? Because I do!


How much do immigrants really claim in benefits? - Telegraph

I suggest You should take a look at these statistics.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Do You have sources or did You just made that up? Because I do!


How much do immigrants really claim in benefits? - Telegraph

I suggest You should take a look at these statistics.
Don't blame Griffin; He only listens what that disgusting toad of a man, Farage, lies about and the lame excuse of a PM Cameron pandering to the racist and xenophobic backbenchers. Whenever times are a little difficult, the only way right-wing parties get their voices heard is demonizing the poor and immigrants. It's classic right-wing politics. If you lose your job, are you, as a white person, going to vote for a party that says the rich have it too hard, decrease their burden so they make more jobs, or that brown migrant and Pole are stealing your job! Vote for us and we'll keep them out!
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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People coming into this country should be asked what they have to offer.. and NOT a tabourine or accordian to sit on a pavement begging..
I agree. Tired of seeing Romanians on the pavement.

It annoys me how all these Africans are waiting at Calais to get into England.. They are not going to have our quality of life!
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:14 AM
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Don't blame Griffin; He only listens what that disgusting toad of a man, Farage, lies about and the lame excuse of a PM Cameron pandering to the racist and xenophobic backbenchers. Whenever times are a little difficult, the only way right-wing parties get their voices heard is demonizing the poor and immigrants. It's classic right-wing politics. If you lose your job, are you, as a white person, going to vote for a party that says the rich have it too hard, decrease their burden so they make more jobs, or that brown migrant and Pole are stealing your job! Vote for us and we'll keep them out!
So true. Sadly, many people (not only in the UK) believe in this kind of BS. Right-wing politics is dangerous and a thread to democracy.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Its not bull**** its an opinion and people have a right to that. Don't be disrespectful.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:26 AM
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Its not bull**** its an opinion and people have a right to that. Don't be disrespectful.
Does not matter. Those ideas are medieval and are a clear threat to democracy. Obviously You have the right to think whatever You want but then you'll suffer the consequences of the BS extreme (both right and left) politics.

BTW: You want to live in the United States don't You. Oh the irony there...
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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Its not bull**** its an opinion and people have a right to that. Don't be disrespectful.
One man's opinion can lead to the death of millions of people. Opinions, depending what they are, can be very dangerous
 
Old 06-11-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Berkshire, England
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Do You have sources or did You just made that up? Because I do!


How much do immigrants really claim in benefits? - Telegraph

I suggest You should take a look at these statistics.
I see your Daily Torygraph and raise you the Office for National Statistics and the aforementioned UCL.

Google is your friend.

BTW I'm not a UKIP supporter. I think I already mentioned how enthusiastically I support immigration in certain categories. But don't let facts get in the way, I realize that's no fun.

Believe what you want. I prefer the truth, whether or not it proves inconvenient or not.
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