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Which was his duty as a father. Meghan didn’t ask to be born. So as a parent, as the one who made the choice to help bring her into this world, it was his responsibility to give her the best life he could give her. She shouldn’t have to “repay” him for doing what he was supposed to do as a father.
IMHO Mr. Markle has become just as bad as his other children who jumped at any chance they could to trash Meghan in the media the minute it became public that she was dating Harry. Perhaps if Mr. Markle would quit running to the media every week to whine about what he’s not getting from her and Harry, and throw out egregious speculation about what she’s thinking and feeling, maybe just maybe, he and Meghan could work to repair what’s obviously broken with their relationship, but I guess when there’s the opportunity for a few dollars to made he, like his other children, he will jump at the chance to make a buck.
At this point, if I were her I would be reluctant to speak with him for fear the minute after we spoke he’d be running to the media to give them a play by play of all that was discussed.
Mr. Markle was well-paid, but he was not rich. It was not his "duty" to send her to private school when he could have sent her to public school . . . unless you think all parents have a duty to send their children to private school if they can remotely afford to.
And he didn't "whine about what he's not getting from her" until she stopped answering her phone. He had nothing but high praise for her, even in the Good Morning Britain interview that is supposedly the reason she isn't talking to him.
You make it sound like he was trashing her all this time. Not the case.
The man is recovering from heart surgery and isn't doing well. If her father dies before she deigns to speak with him, the PR fallout is going to be negative. She's making bad choices and I doubt the royal family gives two hoots. Anyone outside of the family is secondary. And btw, Prince Charles has had some extremely embarrassing episodes in his own life. Remember those recorded phone calls to Camilla? But he will never be treated the way Mr. Markle is being treated, no matter what he does.
Good Morning Britain interview that is supposedly the reason she isn't talking to him.
As she should have stop speaking to him. It’s obvious he has little respect for her privacy and will engage the media any chance he gets to discuss their relationship (or lack there of) and make unfounded deductions about her and Harry.
Meghan is apart of the royal family now and by extension her parents are too. Therefore, they should not be doing any interviews with the media unless vetted by the appropriate parties first. He’s been flapping his jaws to anyone who would listen, mostly U.S. and British Tabloids, since before the wedding. Why? To make a quick buck? Meghan gave him a pass on several staged paparazzi incidents before the wedding with her still wishing for him to walk her down the aisle, but he still kept engaging the media. When Meghan and Harry first got engaged I seem to recall Mr. Markle and Ms. Ragland releasing a joint statement through Kensington Palace expressing their joy over the pending nuptials. Meghan’s Mom has continued to follow what has been reported as guidance from the royal family on dealing with the media. Hence we’ve not heard a peep out of her, while Meghan’s father seems determined to follow the path of his eldest children by courting the media any chance he gets.
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The man is recovering from heart surgery and isn't doing well.
Convenient eh. He flip flopped so many times before the wedding as to whether he’d actually attend no one knew what to expect from him, when finally he landed on the supposed heart ailment that would prevent him from going. He had the “surgery” and he was barely out the operating room before he was running his mouth to the media again. SMH. This from someone who claims he wanted to be left alone after the wedding, but the man has not shut up since Meghan and Harry married. He’s done an interview with some media outlet it seems at least once a week. He is not making himself look any better by continuously doing what supposedly got him shut out of her life in the first place, talking to the media.
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Mr. Markle was well-paid, but he was not rich. It was not his "duty" to send her to private school when he could have sent her to public school . . . unless you think all parents have a duty to send their children to private school if they can remotely afford to.
And he didn't "whine about what he's not getting from her" until she stopped answering her phone. He had nothing but high praise for her, even in the Good Morning Britain interview that is supposedly the reason she isn't talking to him.
You make it sound like he was trashing her all this time. Not the case.
The man is recovering from heart surgery and isn't doing well. If her father dies before she deigns to speak with him, the PR fallout is going to be negative. She's making bad choices and I doubt the royal family gives two hoots. Anyone outside of the family is secondary. And btw, Prince Charles has had some extremely embarrassing episodes in his own life. Remember those recorded phone calls to Camilla? But he will never be treated the way Mr. Markle is being treated, no matter what he does.
Amazing how many people don't see the hypocrisy.
I suspect that this is speculation.
I don't know any of the Markles. I don't know if Meghan has or has not done anything for her father. I don't know if he has some form of dementia.
What I do know is that he took money for the Good Morning Britain interview. He acknowledged that he shouldn't have taken money before the wedding in an interview that he took money to give. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he may have some dementia, or he was high on pain meds.
I don't feel sorry for Thomas Markle at all. He had one job. Shut The Hell Up. For nearly two years he managed to do just that,but then a few days before the wedding he puts TMZ on speed dial. The hell?! He couldn't tell his daughter for some reason,but boy he made sure his best buddies TMZ got the scoop that opps I can't come after all. Then it turns out he disgustingly was in cohorts with the press for months, even before this suspicious heart issue, and all this comes to light after his daughter and her fiance foolishly asked for privacy for this backstabbing piece of crap. It didn't stop there though because afterwards he kept giving interviews, but this time of private conversations along with his assumptions about his daughter's mental health. His child, and her new husband, asked one thing. Don't talk to the press. Markle decided to say screw that and has made TMZ, Piers Morgan, and the Sun his new best friends.
Some people say he should have been schooled on what to do with them. Really? This man who has had a very long career in Hollywood needed to be schooled on how to deal with the tabloids? Is silence or no comment a foreign concept or something? A decent human being, with love and loyalty in their hearts for their offspring, needs no guidance on how to shut up talking to the very media establishment out to get their child. Case in point just ask her mother.
Doria somehow managed to keep her mouth shut, and all because her daughter was more important then the press. She has now reaped the benefits of that loyalty. He could have had the same if he had shut the hell up, and put his daughter first.
This man also sat there and let his two toxic way older children, people she hasn’t spoken to in a decade,spew their twisted hatred for two years and counting.He said not a word against it because turns out he's in cohoots with them. Samantha in particular is a nasty, evil, jealous piece of work who was one of the first to spin and twist her envious tales to gossip rags when news first broke and is still doing it. Then this cockroach, and her trash brother, had the conjones to think that after all their atrocious defamation that they should still get an invite?! The audacity of it! When that didn't work they now use cockroach sr, with the british tabloids blessing, to try to guilt trip Meghan so they all can all reap the monetary benefits through him. It is clear anything she even whispers will be in the papers bright and early the next day. Love and Loyalty are two words Thomas Markle obviously doesn't give a lick about. So I do not and will not feel sorry for him.
What they are doing is cyberbulling, harassment, and emotional blackmail,and the british tabloids love it. They already helped take Harry's mother away from him so now they are going to try their best with their sexist, racist, and classist attacks, and with the very willing help of her piece of trash estranged family members, to break Meghan to.
Sr put the press, who has been tearing her down for two years and counting, over his own child. He is also in cohoots with two of the prime scum who
have said some of the vilest things about their own sister and his youngest child, and who have done their level best to make sure her wedding didn't happen,but sure after all that he deserves respect and to be in her life. GTFOOH.
It's been nonstop libelous and slanderous gossip originating from racist, sexist, classist trash like the Dailyklan, The Sun, and the The Daily Mirror, and he is using his daughter though them as his meal ticket.
The british media, especially the Dailyklan and Piers Morgan, have been the biggest pieces of garbage throughout all this.They are now trying to pretend they hold no culpability on the slander and libel that has being going on for 2 years and counting when they are ringleaders of it. That evil monster Samantha would have stayed on twitter where she belonged, but the DailyKlan made sure to give her an international platform to deframe a women she's estranged from and hasn't seen in ten years.Then they threw in the woman beater brother, and the equally money hungry jealous witch ex best friend for good measure. The globs of hypocritical sexism, racism, and classicism have been monstrous,and I hope lawsuits and gag orders for slander and libel are coming for all their behinds, and that includes her father. This also means the social media trolls who have made it their mission to spread monstrous rumors with the sole intent that mainstream media will pick it up. The loathing for this woman is ugly and we all know why.
The british tabloids are relentless sociopaths with the dailyklan leading the pack. The amount of sexist, racist, classist, nitpicking, and just plain made up garbage, is absolutely sky high and her father is helping put gasoline on the flames.
And if he dies without reconciliation from Meghan. So? He made his backstabbing bed now it's time to lie in it. The british tabloids have been on a deframation vendetta against this women from jump and are still on it. So when the **** storm hits let it. The british tabloids hate her anyway so it wouldn't be anything she hasn't seen before.Maybe his new friends can mourn him.
They didn't care about being involved with her for years,but the moment she marries a prince they are soooo torn apart about not being included. Harry was 100% right,and I'm glad he stood by it. Money hungry cesspools are blood because genetics made them so, but they are not family. He wants to use her as his golden parachute as do all the other roaches coming out of the woodwork. Opening the Meghan ATM is all this is about and all it has ever been about,but they won't be getting their way with these two.
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Mr. Markle's foibles are nowhere as big as you make them out to be in the scheme of things.
Now if you want true scandal, you only have to look at the royal family themselves. Let's start with Andrew and his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein . . . you know, the guy who made sex slaves out of young girls and farmed them out to celebrities, politicians, and Andrew himself. Andrew has had numerous unsavory associations beyond Epstein.
The vitriol directed at Mr. Markle and his insignificant "trespasses", versus the constant free pass given to the scandalous royal family is staggering. Perhaps they are the ones who truly shouldn't have been invited, that is, if we're going to have a contest of who is more horrendous.
Mr. Markle's foibles are nowhere as big as you make them out to be in the scheme of things.
I think his foibles are mostly due to his health issues and not having all of his faculties at this point. Watching his interviews, he looks like he might have had a stroke or is dealing with some neurological issues. He slurs his words, eyes and face droop, and he has to really work to get his thoughts together to speak. The heart problems could easily be affecting his cognition and speech. Plus, the poor man may have mounting medical bills or worry about his future medical needs, and he has to resort to all these interviews because he can obviously no longer work. He also has to now fend for himself worrying about his privacy and security. How is he supposed to do this on meager funds?
Prior to the wedding, she has continually posted nothing but glowing things about Dad Markle and what a wonderful father he was. It's just crazy. He's not suddenly toxic after a lifetime of being her wonderful father. He's just ailing and in poor health, and not able to make good, clear decisions anymore due to this.
They didn't even handle his coming to the wedding very well. Dad Markle should've been flown over at least a week or two prior to make it all less stressful for him. He would've enjoyed that. Doria looked super stressed sitting there all alone. They should've know that he's too frail to walk her down the aisle, but would have been able to watch the ceremony. Someone could have been assigned to tend to him all week and stay with him during the receptions as well. This was a big day for Meghan and Harry, but it should've have been a big day for Dad Markle as well. You don't just take, take, take from parents and give nothing back to them. You can bring some joy into their lives as well.
None of it has been handled well and they just continue to sit back and let it snowball and get worse with Dad Markle constantly doing these interviews. It's awful if she has in fact frozen out her ill elderly father!
I agree with the above. When he was doing well and had money, he was the greatest. Now that things aren't going well for him, his health is bad, he has to live in Mexico, he seems sort of "out of it" she can't be bothered.
Actually, I think both parents should have been flown to England and looked after prior to the wedding. Even the mother only had a very few days to meet everyone, get rested up, relax, and prepare for the big day. Maybe she wanted it that way. But the dad certainly needed looking after before the wedding. It's very strange that Meghan was crowing about how great he was and how much she wanted him to walk her down the aisle and at the very same time did nothing at all to prepare him or support him emotionally. It was all talk. Now she's dropped him completely? Her own father who was so good to her? And Harry and the royal family go right along with it? What kind of people are these?
I agree with the above. When he was doing well and had money, he was the greatest. Now that things aren't going well for him, his health is bad, he has to live in Mexico, he seems sort of "out of it" she can't be bothered.
Actually, I think both parents should have been flown to England and looked after prior to the wedding. Even the mother only had a very few days to meet everyone, get rested up, relax, and prepare for the big day. Maybe she wanted it that way. But the dad certainly needed looking after before the wedding. It's very strange that Meghan was crowing about how great he was and how much she wanted him to walk her down the aisle and at the very same time did nothing at all to prepare him or support him emotionally. It was all talk. Now she's dropped him completely? Her own father who was so good to her? And Harry and the royal family go right along with it? What kind of people are these?
Absolutely. You can't just expect 'civilians' to pop on over to the UK and suddenly show up, mingle, participate in, and adapt to a huge royal event that is being broadcast all over the world. Anyone would be seriously rattled by that and have a very hard time dealing with it. I know would have to take a sedative to get through it all even in the best of scenarios. A medically fragile elderly parent would need to be really carefully tended to the whole time to make sure that they could get through such a huge, incredibly taxing, and stressful event without sending their health or emotions into a major tailspin.
This treatment of her elderly ailing dad is a huge red flag. Narcissists view people as objects or props in their life, and when the prop is no longer needed or useful because better props have replaced it, the prop is ruthlessly discarded and forgotten.
Prior to the wedding, she has continually posted nothing but glowing things about Dad Markle and what a wonderful father he was.
It's just crazy. He's not suddenly toxic after a lifetime of being her wonderful father.
He's just ailing and in poor health, and not able to make good, clear decisions anymore due to this.
^^^THIS^^^ is the issue in a nutshell. ^^^THIS^^^ is what so many people aren't questioning.
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None of it has been handled well and they just continue to sit back and let it snowball and get worse with Dad Markle constantly doing these interviews.
It's awful if she has in fact frozen out her ill elderly father!
Meghan fits in perfectly with the royal family, and the Ivory Tower they live in surrounded by staff and courtiers. They don't respond well to crises affecting other people. I think they have so little regard or concern for anyone outside their family, that it doesn't even seem strange to them that she's ignoring her father. They are too used to being the center of attention and everyone's primary concern . . . to their detriment as human beings.
In one of Mr. Markle's recent interviews, he said Meghan had always promised to take care of him, and he didn't mean monetarily, but caring for his well being. He doesn't understand why she's forgotten her promises.
I'm caring for someone who had two strokes last year, and I can't fathom how they would survive alone!!!
When a person becomes seriously ill and debilitated, they get scared and panicky - especially when it's still a new experience. Think about how how scared her father must feel to live so far away from everyone, just because Mexico is cheap enough for him to afford. He has no one to care for him or even check in. His oldest daughter is in a wheelchair and is low income, and his son lives up in Oregon and seems to be low-income also. Travel would be difficult for both.
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I agree that Meghan shows signs of narcissism. I also think parents can create narcissistic children. I think Mr. Markle did that by doting on her to excess at the expense of his two oldest children. Both Mr. Markle himself and the two oldest have said that he used to put work before family, until Meghan came along. All of them said he changed overnight after her birth.
He used to come home and carry her around for hours. He'd go outside with her and point at the moon and say, "That's Meggie's moon" and as a toddler, she started repeating him. All his time and resources seem to have gone to Meghan while the two oldest children were given far less attention. No mystery why the oldest daughter is twisted and bitter.
Children are not dumb. They size up the landscape from a young age, and all Meghan ever knew was the privilege of being put in First Place in that family.
This is deja vu for me because I saw this family dynamic in my in-laws when I was married. They had three sons, but all the attention and resources went to the oldest, and he grew up to believe he was far more important than anyone else in the family . . . including his own mother who had spoiled him.
He treated his mother exactly like Meghan is treating her father. In spite of the fact that his mother had always given him more of everything than the other two, sent him to college and law school, bought him an expensive sports car right out of law school, paid for his big wedding, and put a second mortgage on her paid off house to get the money that put him into his own business and then had to get a job to pay the second mortgage . . . here's how he treated her . . .
Though he became very rich and though he "supported" his mother, he gave her very little and never once raised her monthly income as the cost of living went up over decades. Her medications went up drastically, but his financial support never did. She finally had to go into debt to make ends meet. He allowed his mother to declare bankruptcy and he berated her for it.
(He had to support her because after his father died, all the money he left was tied up in a stock that was falling. He mistakenly advised his mother to ride it out and she lost it all. Not blaming him, but it explains the support.)
While he was allowing his mother to go through bankruptcy, he was living in a huge mansion, driving luxury cars, buying very expensive things, and generally living as high a life as any celebrity would live.
He died a few years ago and was worth more than $50 Million, not including the mansion he owned, the lake house, and other property like his art collection, furnishings, or the sports cars and the Bentley that were hardly ever driven. How someone just takes and takes and takes from a parent, owes their success to that parent, and then allows that parent to go bankrupt because they don't give them enough, is beyond me.
I think overly sacrificial parenting toward one child at the expense of other children creates a warped sense of self-importance, and the idea that parents exist only to further one's own success . . . or to reflect well on oneself. If Mr. Markle did anything wrong, this would be it.
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