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Old 06-28-2007, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Should car pool lane rules read "two licensed occupants" rather than "two occupants"? Should a car with only a lady and her baby be allowed to use a car pool lane? Isn't the purpose of a car pool lane to provide an incentive to car pool, and reduce the number of cars on the road?
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Indy
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Should car pool lane rules read "two licensed occupants" rather than "two occupants"? Should a car with only a lady and her baby be allowed to use a car pool lane? Isn't the purpose of a car pool lane to provide an incentive to car pool, and reduce the number of cars on the road?
Honestly it probably should be that way. A few years ago I remember hearing about a woman that SUCCESSFULLY fought a ticket for driving in a car pool lane while pregnant. Her defense was Roe Vs. Wade since she was in her third trimester. I think that it was in Cali.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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No, it's for getting another driver from driving their car, so unless your 2 year old drives her own car then it should be that way. A mother and her baby is not carpooling.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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Tiz in the Peoples Republic of California
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Beautiful place in Virginia
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Just don't use Safe T Man for the HOV...

mental_floss magazine - Where Knowledge Junkies Get Their Fix

Man Ticketed For Driving With Mannequin In HOV Lane - News Story - KMGH Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/6468593/detail.html - broken link)

Or this one:

CarPool Kenny eases you into HOV lane the illegal way - Autoblog

They used to allow hybrids in the HOV lane. Don't know the current status.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:00 PM
 
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Honestly it probably should be that way. A few years ago I remember hearing about a woman that SUCCESSFULLY fought a ticket for driving in a car pool lane while pregnant. Her defense was Roe Vs. Wade since she was in her third trimester. I think that it was in Cali.
California law says you can't have two people share a seatbelt, so if there are two people in the car (mom and baby) then wouldn't they be sharing a seatbelt?
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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A) Not everyone (adult) is licensed to drive yet, they need to get somewhere. So, I do not "buy" the two licensed drivers idea

B) In some states, such as AZ, motorcycles (single rider) are allowed to use the HOV lanes.

C) Single occupant Alt Fuel vechiles can also use the HOV lanes

The proposal for two licensed drivers would be a nightmare to enforce - even more than the 2 occupant rule is now
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Sometimes the degree of enforcement required to strictly achieve a specific public policy goal is legally, politically and logistically impractical. So instead you design the law to promote the policy in such a way that it is enforceable, even if it allows others for whom the policy is not designed to also benefit. Allowing any two occupants in an HOV lane is the best way to promote the desired public policy while still making it practical to enforce. If that's not a compromise you're willing to countenance, I bet you'd change your mind if law enforcement ever seriously tried to enforce a "two licensed drivers only" approach.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Suppose the two occupants are indeed adults; but, one does not drive due to personal choice?
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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See above.
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