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Here's a classic that illustrates the mindset that lead to suburbia. It really was a noble idea, but somewhere we forgot the point of the movement in the first place... to live with the land instead of against it (relatively speaking), to raise families in safe, pleasant environments and revel in the glories of a more healthy, natural existence. I think we missed the ball on that one.
I don't care what any of you urbanites have to say. I love the suburbs. I feel at peace here. Stop hating and just mind your business. If you don't like the suburbs, don't talk about it or move there. It's as simple as that.
I don't care what any of you urbanites have to say. I love the suburbs. I feel at peace here. Stop hating and just mind your business. If you don't like the suburbs, don't talk about it or move there. It's as simple as that.
Um... I live in a suburb.
Actually it was once a lone 100 yr old house in a rural area surrounded by fields that one day sprouted a bumper-crop of vinyl and cultured stone clad mcmansions. But am I bitter? Naw!
Let me tell you something, you suburb haters, especially the subset of you (most of you actually) who feel the burbs have "no sense of community". I am going to be having surgery soon, and a neighbor of mine sent out a group email to everyone who subscribes to the 'hood list-serve, asking for volunteers to make us some meals while I am recovering. She got about a dozen people to sign up in three days. How many of you have had that happen in a city neighborhood?
Let me tell you something, you suburb haters, especially the subset of you (most of you actually) who feel the burbs have "no sense of community". I am going to be having surgery soon, and a neighbor of mine sent out a group email to everyone who subscribes to the 'hood list-serve, asking for volunteers to make us some meals while I am recovering. She got about a dozen people to sign up in three days. How many of you have had that happen in a city neighborhood?
Well I have to say I wish you the best of luck with your surgery and Happy Thanksgiving. It is great that volunteers will help make meals, but who is to say that city neighborhoods don't do the same thing? When you say your suburb in Denver does that, we don't doubt you but I think that this or similar types of act of community involvement happen more in city neighborhoods than suburban ones. I live in a suburb and that doesn't happen really, or if it does it is much rarer and on a much smaller scale. Inner city neighborhoods have gatherings such as this a lot and I think city neighborhoods have more of a critical mass for more community gatherings similar to this. I think community happenings are closer and happen more often and on a larger scale in inner city neighborhoods than in most what people would call "McMansion" suburbs, but that doens't mean it doesn't happen in McMansion suburbs.
Nice video of the 1939 film "The City", very informative. I suppose if you lived back then you would have thought the city is so evil by looking at all the smokestacks and the hard life in NYC at that time. However, it is unfortunate the people of the 1950s like Robert Moses and others did not or willfully ignored the horrors that would result in their efforts to save them from the horrors of the city. Since we are more scientifically knowledgable right now, we need to see how suburban development destroys the very nature spaces that people want to live in in order to escape the city. Since the US has a huge population now and for the past 60 years, it is not possible to get everyone to live in the country like and as you said the point America missed with the suburbs is we ended up destroying nature by trying to get people to live with it when "country" living (like suburbs strived to be) is only viable if it takes up a minimal footprint, made of small walkable downtowns similar to old pre-WWII country towns, and relatively low populations in the rural areas.
Well I have to say I wish you the best of luck with your surgery and Happy Thanksgiving. It is great that volunteers will help make meals, but who is to say that city neighborhoods don't do the same thing? When you say your suburb in Denver does that, we don't doubt you but I think that this or similar types of act of community involvement happen more in city neighborhoods than suburban ones. I live in a suburb and that doesn't happen really, or if it does it is much rarer and on a much smaller scale. Inner city neighborhoods have gatherings such as this a lot and I think city neighborhoods have more of a critical mass for more community gatherings similar to this. I think community happenings are closer and happen more often and on a larger scale in inner city neighborhoods than in most what people would call "McMansion" suburbs, but that doens't mean it doesn't happen in McMansion suburbs.
Nice video of the 1939 film "The City", very informative. I suppose if you lived back then you would have thought the city is so evil by looking at all the smokestacks and the hard life in NYC at that time. However, it is unfortunate the people of the 1950s like Robert Moses and others did not or willfully ignored the horrors that would result in their efforts to save them from the horrors of the city. Since we are more scientifically knowledgable right now, we need to see how suburban development destroys the very nature spaces that people want to live in in order to escape the city. Since the US has a huge population now and for the past 60 years, it is not possible to get everyone to live in the country like and as you said the point America missed with the suburbs is we ended up destroying nature by trying to get people to live with it when "country" living (like suburbs strived to be) is only viable if it takes up a minimal footprint, made of small walkable downtowns similar to old pre-WWII country towns, and relatively low populations in the rural areas.
Thanks for your kind words. RE: the bold, I completely disagree. I lived in the city, two large ones, Pittsburgh and Denver, and one small one, Champaign-Urbana IL. I didn't even know most of my neighbors there; I wouldn't have recognized most of them if I had tripped over them on the street. Could you give an example of such a thing happening in "the city", any city?
OTOH, the same type of neighborliness existed in my parents' suburban neighborhood near Pittsburgh.
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Originally Posted by wburg
You should watch "Suburbia," Katiana--those kids certainly had a sense of community!
What's that, some fiction film, or a film about dysfunctional kids? Not confined to the burbs, pal.
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