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I can see that (the bus friends), but I doubt the drinks would fly in Colorado. The ski train did have a bar, IIRC, but I think you had to stay in the bar car.
I don't know about that; there's some great beer in CO! I would love to patronize the RTD Bar Car, sponsored Fat Tire.
Does everything have to be this Disney Rose-Colored version of real life? Trolleys suck. They are slow, they break down often, and they get stuck in traffic. Riding a bike is faster and better for you.
Give me grade-separated high-speed rail (metro, subway, or long-range) or busways anyday. I want to get somewhere fast without having to deal with traffic and waste money and gas.
Finally, public transit of any kind is a good chance to read a book, check email, or have a nap. Feel free to chat with your seatmate, so long as it's not me.
I've found this, too. Denver has a reputation as a somewhat "standoffish" place; people do not generally strike up conversations with strangers anywhere. However, when we were on the Broncos Ride to the Broncos-Ravens playoff game, some people were chatting up everyone. Some of them were drunk, as well, on the way TO the game!
I can see that (the bus friends), but I doubt the drinks would fly in Colorado. The ski train did have a bar, IIRC, but I think you had to stay in the bar car.
It is generally standoffish many places, people describe big city folk as too busy to stop and chat or they are mean. I'm a more quiet guy, but I leave myself open to meeting people or talking anywhere, If you never leave yourself open to things you'll never get what is coming for you.
On Amtrak or airplanes it seems perfectly socially acceptable to talk whereas most other transport follows the elevator rule. If you talk with anyone, you talk only within your group, and even that is kind of frowned upon as being disruptive depending how animated the conversation is and what it's about (nobody wants to hear about how you got an STD from the loser who isn't paying you child support. Please, just ****).
That's generally true. You're more likely to start a conversation with a random stranger on Delta than you are on the subway. But a lot of people don't mind putting their business all out there no matter the form of transport they're on.
That's generally true. You're more likely to start a conversation with a random stranger on Delta than you are on the subway. But a lot of people don't mind putting their business all out there no matter the form of transport they're on.
True. In my post above when I said I'm open to anything, if you meet someone somewhere, generally you keep it light. Who knows what will happen... the conversation could end right there on the bus/subway, never seeing that person again, or you never know.
However, if people ask me for money, I walk away as quick as I can, once in Chicago my mom gave a bum 20 bucks, alas it was her money, though my father didn't particularly like it haha.
+ Expensive transit systems, subsuidized even more than Highways per user by an unfair tax system.
+ Heavily subsidized transit, forced by overbearing Federal and State governments even whereas cities, in every case I am aware, complete free to set parking requirements.
- Almost no choice, of living without a car. Millions of households do it in NYC alone.
+ A few zealots such as yourself trying to force your worldview on everyone, lobbing ad hominem attacks against anyone who doesn't agree with your worldview.
If done right, mass transit need not have a big subsidy.
Does everything have to be this Disney Rose-Colored version of real life? Trolleys suck. They are slow, they break down often, and they get stuck in traffic. Riding a bike is faster and better for you.
Slow can be good, if you can jump on and off where you like.
Ever been to London, and ridden on a RouteMaster bus?
what if today someone like Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt did a service announcement for public transit like Shirley Temple did back then? it might help to improve people's perception of it.
Even rich people look like bums when you put them on public transit:
I'm certain that image is an actual representation of the everyday commute for Londoners.
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