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Old 06-20-2017, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I am not. I know plenty of friends who live in suburban America and Canada. None of them live within walking distance of anything (walking distance means about 15 minutes). Most suburbs depend on cars 99% of the time.
You must have a lot of friends! I don't know anyone who lives in Canada.

The bold needs some documentation. I'll wait.
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Old 06-24-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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Well, OK. I've looked around the forum and I can find no better place than this to post this information:

I was recently at the Arbor Lodge State Historical Park in Nebraska City, Nebraska. The lodge is the home of J. Sterling Morton, the founder of Arbor Day. They also have an education center there. I learned that a properly placed tree can reduce the interior temperature of a house by 10 degrees, and can cause a 35% decrease in cooling costs.
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Old 06-24-2017, 07:36 PM
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My cooling costs are 0; though obviously I'd be more uncomfortable with less natural cooling. I'll add that trees provide far more natural cooling than grass [which may not provide away, fields get hot]. A small but shaded lot can provide more cooling than a large lot with no trees near the residence
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Old 06-24-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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My cooling costs are 0; though obviously I'd be more uncomfortable with less natural cooling. I'll add that trees provide far more natural cooling than grass [which may not provide away, fields get hot]. A small but shaded lot can provide more cooling than a large lot with no trees near the residence
Not everyone lives in New England. As I said, the average high for July in my town is 89 degrees, with many days being much higher. We have already had three 90+ degree days, including one at 98. Trees get hot, too, when it's that hot outside. I don't get the point there.

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Old 06-24-2017, 08:09 PM
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Not everyone lives in New England. As I said, the average high for July in my town is 89 degrees, with many days being much higher. We have already had three 90+ degree days, including one at 98. Trees get hot, too, when it's that hot outside. I don't get the point there.
What don't you get? I was comparing trees with grass. I've had five 90+ degree days so far.
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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What don't you get? I was comparing trees with grass. I've had five 90+ degree days so far.
I don't get that grass gets hot while you think trees apparently do not.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:07 PM
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I don't get that grass gets hot while you think trees apparently do not.
that wasn't exactly what I was trying to say. A grassy unshaded area gets hotter than a shaded area under trees; grass provides minimal cooling, while trees do. Tangent from your post
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Old 06-25-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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If you live in that part of the country the heating costs are the bigger headache. On one February I spent $450 just for heating costs which is honestly stupid and ridiculous
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Old 06-27-2017, 02:11 PM
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Found a negative article on trees in cities. I'd assume the street has to be rather air polluted for trees to have a big trapping effect

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...n-city-streets
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Old 06-27-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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If you live in that part of the country the heating costs are the bigger headache. On one February I spent $450 just for heating costs which is honestly stupid and ridiculous
Since we heat here from some time in October to some time in May, in general, yes, heating costs more. But cooling also costs, and whatever one can do to lower the costs is a good thing. Even if you don't have A/C, you can be more comfortable.

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Found a negative article on trees in cities. I'd assume the street has to be rather air polluted for trees to have a big trapping effect

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...n-city-streets
Yes, me too. The article also had some bad things to say about traffic slowing, especially speed bumps.
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