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Old 04-07-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Yeah it does. But that may be moot if the house's bill gets traction today. I know that the senate would have to approve their alternative (which won't happen) so this may be a dead issue this year as well as the possibility of a new hospital (since the bill makes that contingent upon revenues from the table games. The interesting thing is that now a majority of PG leaders back, which the House stated would influence their position, they want to through in a proposal that they know no one (especially a developer of that site) would want. IMO that sends out a message that PG is truly a step-child of MD. They would rather kill jobs and a hospital than have us compete with AAC or other jurisdictions. That type of back-handed prejudice is one of the reasons why I don't like the DC metro. At least when I lived down south agendas and dislikes were front and center.
But if this proposal was placed ahead of Anne Arundel's casino then do you think it would have as much opposition? I'm not too sure this is about holding PG down. I think this is about protecting the interest of the state as a whole. If you have casinos that are that close to each other then don't you think that would hurt revenue from all of the casinos and possibly affect the long term financial stability of each. It's difference between cutting a pie in a third instead of a half.

It's great that Rushern Baker has this plan, but it's just too late unfortunately for his cause. Why should leaders support something that is ultimately going to hurt other jurisdictions? Just to appease Prince George's County? Don't you think that's being a bit unfair.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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But if this proposal was placed ahead of Anne Arundel's casino then do you think it would have as much opposition? I'm not too sure this is about holding PG down. I think this is about protecting the interest of the state as a whole. If you have casinos that are that close to each other then don't you think that would hurt revenue from all of the casinos and possibly affect the long term financial stability of each. It's difference between cutting a pie in a third instead of a half.

It's great that Rushern Baker has this plan, but it's just too late unfortunately for his cause. Why should leaders support something that is ultimately going to hurt other jurisdictions? Just to appease Prince George's County? Don't you think that's being a bit unfair.
I hear your point. Although I do feel that the state didn't make the best selection for the original 5 sites. IMO, only 2 of the 5 sites would ever realize the projected profits due to their respective locations. As for the ones in closer proximity to each, you are correct. Just like the 3 groceries stores off 210 (from Fort Wash. to Accokeek) do the same thing. I do feel that there are other variables that will have that same impact that are not being considered by the state or the opposing operators. But a "no slots" casino is not my issue with the house bill. I do feel that if their intent was for PG to not have one then say that instead of offering an alternative that would no be viable in any scenario since those types of casinos don't exist. Do they really believe that someone would travel down the street let alone from anywhere else to play table games. However, my biggest issue was not with the proposed casino but more with the plan to link building the new PG hospital to revenues generated from a modified casino. PG needs new medical facilities badly and immediately. At the proposed contribution rate per year, it would take several years before that project would even break ground. That is one of the reasons why Baker did not want it tied to gambling revenues. That fact, was the main reason for my earlier rant.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Well the senate is proposing an alternate to what the house has proposed which is a little more reasonable. Hospital is separated (major our hospital system needs a big injection), PG Casino couldn't open before 07/15 (that would have been the case regardless), and slots reduced to 3750 (no biggie, IMO they could reduce it to the average for an LV casino).

On another note, get prepared the assembly is passing bills to squeeze whatever disposable income is left for Marylanders. They are proposing the income tax hike to be retroactive.

Maryland lawmakers poised to approve retroactive tax hike - The Washington Post
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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On another note, get prepared the assembly is passing bills to squeeze whatever disposable income is left for Marylanders. They are proposing the income tax hike to be retroactive.

Maryland lawmakers poised to approve retroactive tax hike - The Washington Post
WTH? That's dirty.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:00 PM
 
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WTH? That's dirty.
Definitely.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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So I guess it is going to the people in the Fall. I am confused though I thought that it would have to be agreed on by both the senate and house but okay

Maryland Senate approves referendum on P.G. casino | Washington Examiner
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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WTH? That's dirty.
You tend to get the government you vote for. Only I didn't vote for this government, I voted against it. What does that tell you about the majority of people in MD? Producers or takers?
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Well the senate is proposing an alternate to what the house has proposed which is a little more reasonable. Hospital is separated (major our hospital system needs a big injection), PG Casino couldn't open before 07/15 (that would have been the case regardless), and slots reduced to 3750 (no biggie, IMO they could reduce it to the average for an LV casino).

On another note, get prepared the assembly is passing bills to squeeze whatever disposable income is left for Marylanders. They are proposing the income tax hike to be retroactive.

Maryland lawmakers poised to approve retroactive tax hike - The Washington Post
Why did people vote for these individuals again?
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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So I guess it is going to the people in the Fall. I am confused though I thought that it would have to be agreed on by both the senate and house but okay

Maryland Senate approves referendum on P.G. casino | Washington Examiner
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a state wide vote right? If so, there is no way this will pass.
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a state wide vote right? If so, there is no way this will pass.
Statewide vote. It will likely pass. Marylanders overall are pro-gambling. If I'm not mistaken the Prince George's portion of the bill also has to be approved by County voters.

Remember, there are a couple parts to this: one is the casino at National Harbor and the other is to allow table games at the other venues.
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