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Old 06-12-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: New York City (from D.C.)
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Let Metro riders pay their share of that.
Why?
Metro riders pay taxes too and it goes towards the roads, and probably vice versa. Sure metro fares could be raised too, but if metro could become like what's on that fantasy map than then the ENTIRE region would only benefit. Traffic congestion would be cut by half, or more.

Also certain roads like Rt. 5/301, Rt. 210, Rt. 29 (Columbia Pike), and the B-W parkway can be turned into interstate expressways.
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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25 years? This is like the Boston tunnel project, huh?

Before 25 years, I hope I'm retired, traveling the world. And I hope I make enough money that my kids don't have to live in DC.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Why?
Metro riders pay taxes too and it goes towards the roads, and probably vice versa. Sure metro fares could be raised too, but if metro could become like what's on that fantasy map than then the ENTIRE region would only benefit. Traffic congestion would be cut by half, or more.

Also certain roads like Rt. 5/301, Rt. 210, Rt. 29 (Columbia Pike), and the B-W parkway can be turned into interstate expressways.
Why? Because it's not fair. People want users to pay for roads (tolls), but not for public transit (get someone else to pay for it).
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: New York City (from D.C.)
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Why? Because it's not fair. People want users to pay for roads (tolls), but not for public transit (get someone else to pay for it).
People already pay for public transit though. Driving a big piece of metal shouldn't be free.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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Why? Because it's not fair. People want users to pay for roads (tolls), but not for public transit (get someone else to pay for it).
It is fair! People who don't have cars pay taxes that go to stupid highway projects all the time.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: New York City (from D.C.)
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It is fair! People who don't have cars pay taxes that go to stupid highway projects all the time.
Thank you.
If people don't want to cough up the dough they can either take metro or stay in the suburbs.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Thank you.
If people don't want to cough up the dough they can either take metro or stay in the suburbs.
That's basically an infringement on the freedom of movement though...
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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I don't like car-haters, so I'll leave it at that.
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: New York City (from D.C.)
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That's basically an infringement on the freedom of movement though...
New York City does it, why not DC? (I know its an apples to oranges comparison, but go along with it).

There is practically no way in hell can get across the Hudson river without paying a toll or taking the bus or train.

If you own a car and drive it you can afford to pay a toll. A toll of $1.50 one way should be a good or a monthly pass of $30.00 of unlimited entry/exit of DC.
Ultimately this willl encourage people in the suburbs to take metro. I know PG county's transit can suck but people can still drive to a metro station and get on the train.
The problem is that TOO MANY PEOPLE think they are "too good" to take metro which is BS because I bet the majority of the white people in suits on the red and orange lines make
a lot more money than those bourgie black people that reside in Woodmore, Bowie, Kettering, Brandywine, Friendly, Ft. Washington, etc, etc and no I'm stereotyping it's the truth, my in laws live in those areas.

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Old 06-13-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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New York City does it, why not DC? (I know its an apples to oranges comparison, but go along with it).

There is practically no way in hell can get across the Hudson river without paying a toll or taking the bus or train.

If you own a car and drive it you can afford to pay a toll. A toll of $1.50 one way should be a good or a monthly pass of $30.00 of unlimited entry/exit of DC.
Ultimately this willl encourage people in the suburbs to take metro. I know PG county's transit can suck but people can still drive to a metro station and get on the train.
The problem is that TOO MANY PEOPLE think they are "too good" to take metro which is BS because I bet the majority of the white people in suits on the red and orange lines make
a lot more money than those bourgie black people that reside in Woodmore, Bowie, Kettering, Brandywine, Friendly, Ft. Washington, etc, etc and no I'm stereotyping it's the truth, my in laws live in those areas.
Other than my fellow college students, you'll find bourgie black people commuting on Metro if they work in DC. I used to see them mixed in with college students and working class black people arriving to and from Branch Avenue when me and my mother used to drop off and picked my stepbrother up from there. I live in Brandywine with the fam myself. But I'll admit, we love our cars in my neck of the woods lol I always do get excited when I use Metro to hangout in the City or to go see an event though. I love public transit. I also utilized the Metrobus coming home during my 9th grade year at Central High when I was living in Walker Mill.

Perhaps tolls can help alleviate congestion, which is getting worse as the entire DMV becomes more heavily populated and developed, but let's not discount the other alternatives such as implementing HOV lanes on certain freeways that desperately need them, dedicated BRT infrastructure to and from DC and within the surrounding counties, the upcoming Purple Line, etc.

I will admit though, the amount of money generated from the tolls can help with the funding of some aforementioned projects if DC is willing to have Maryland and Virginia have a piece of that cash cow pie. It could put further pressure on Metro to expand since ridership will most likely increase exponentially if this happens. It's gonna take more than just the Silver Line to deal with all this.
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