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What do you think about Columbia? Sabal palms grow well there.
I've actually seen pictures of livistona palms and washingtonia palms in Columbia as well. Not sure if it is an anomaly of the inland South or the fact that the Appalachians help places in the inland South east of the mountains. I believe Augusta, GA has the same types of palms as Columbia.
You don't see those types of palms in Jackson, MS or Montogomery, AL. And Atlanta is too high in elevation for the more tender palms.
I love that about South Carolina. You'll see more palms in Columbia than Mobile which is considerably warmer.
Having the palmetto as the state tree helps. If it were a state tree of Alabama, I'd bet there would have been more in Mobile as well. I remember seeing some planted as far north as the Rock Hill, SC exit on I-77 in 2013, but they were probably destroyed during the polar vortex of early 2014. A more temperate tree now grows alongside that exit.
Georgia's state tree is the southern live oak (another subtropical evergreen), but being on the northern end of the tree's range, only a few naturally grow in places like Savannah. The vast majority that you see downtown on the squares were planted there by humans.
What do you think about Columbia? Sabal palms grow well there.
Kind of but they do die or get totally browned out and fried every now and then. Throw in the fact that it's not uncommon to see single digit temperatures and it's hard to call it subtropical. Maybe in terms of averages but not in reality due to wildly fluctuating temps.
Kind of but they do die or get totally browned out and fried every now and then. Throw in the fact that it's not uncommon to see single digit temperatures and it's hard to call it subtropical. Maybe in terms of averages but not in reality due to wildly fluctuating temps.
exactly, natural range of the sabal being ~20 miles inland in SC is established for a reason. they probably get knocked back every few hundred years... i think coastal SC is definitely subtropical but as you go further inland i would consider it a transition to continental-subtropical...
Speaking of palms, I saw a CIDP yesterday, that was about 50 ft tall and badly burnt from a fire at a neighbouring cafe. Must have been quite a sight when it was in flames. It's getting the chop today, so will get a photo.
I've actually seen pictures of livistona palms and washingtonia palms in Columbia as well. Not sure if it is an anomaly of the inland South or the fact that the Appalachians help places in the inland South east of the mountains. I believe Augusta, GA has the same types of palms as Columbia.
You don't see those types of palms in Jackson, MS or Montogomery, AL. And Atlanta is too high in elevation for the more tender palms.
the Appalachians make virtually no difference because they are too short. maybe a 1-2°F advantage being east of the mountains. the biggest difference is that Mobile, Birmingham, Nashville are more in the line of fire for cold fronts...
exactly, natural range of the sabal being ~20 miles inland in SC is established for a reason. they probably get knocked back every few hundred years... i think coastal SC is definitely subtropical but as you go further inland i would consider it a transition to continental-subtropical...
From what I've seen sabals are hardy to 7F, but Savannah has recorded 3F.
From what I've seen sabals are hardy to 7F, but Savannah has recorded 3F.
Warm PDO and cold AMO with that 3F in Savannah, same as what we will have this winter, unlike last winter. This could be 1985 all over again in the South.
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You'll see more palms in Columbia than Mobile which is considerably warmer.