Are there USDA zone 10b areas in Louisiana? (climate, warm, averages)
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This makes me think areas such as the Breton National Wildlife Refuge for which no climate data exist could be within zone 10b, for the following reasons:
-The Breton National Wildlife Refuge and similar are small islands significantly further out to sea than the 10a area on the map that is connected to land. This would give the islands warmer low temperatures, possibly by quite a bit.
-That map is for 1976-2005, whereas the current time period is either 1991-2020 or 1993-2022 depending on how you look at it. The fact that an area on the land was already 10a in 1976-2005, and that the islands' distance from the land would arguably be enough to put them as 10b even in 1976-2005, is very suggestive that they are 10b with the warmed up current period.
This makes me think areas such as the Breton National Wildlife Refuge for which no climate data exist could be within zone 10b, for the following reasons:
-The Breton National Wildlife Refuge and similar are small islands significantly further out to sea than the 10a area on the map that is connected to land. This would give the islands warmer low temperatures, possibly by quite a bit.
-That map is for 1976-2005, whereas the current time period is either 1991-2020 or 1993-2022 depending on how you look at it. The fact that an area on the land was already 10a in 1976-2005, and that the islands' distance from the land would arguably be enough to put them as 10b even in 1976-2005, is very suggestive that they are 10b with the warmed up current period.
Anyone else agree with this?
Where is it? I can't see it on that map. The highest zone I can see is 9b which exists in the outer part of the Mississippi delta and New Orleans, the same as most of central Florida and the Texas coast.
Where is it? I can't see it on that map. The highest zone I can see is 9b which exists in the outer part of the Mississippi delta and New Orleans, the same as most of central Florida and the Texas coast.
I think it is this region
unpopulated area but there is a fishing pier out there
Looks like the coldest month of January has an average low of 10 Celsius. Given an equivalent standard deviation compared to the average January low for the average coldest January temperature to New Orleans airport (which averages 7.8 Celsius and usually has a -2.2 Celsius coldest temperature), we get exactly 0 Celsius, so 10a.
Granted, this isn't exactly zone 10b. But there's more - being so far out in the Gulf, Breton would have a much lower standard deviation compared to its average temperature than New Orleans (as mentioned at the begnning of the thread).
If we were to assume the difference was similar to that between Florida's geographically similar situation of Miami (20.3 Celsius January average, 5.8 Celsius usual coldest temperature) and Key West (21.4 Celsius January average, 10.1 Celsius usual coldest temperature) for example, we'd get 3.2 Celsius as the usual coldest temperature for Breton, easily 10b. Even assuming that's an overestimate, Breton would only need to have deviations of 1.7 Celsius less than New Orleans to be 10b, which I don't see much (if anything) wrong with because of that mentioned distance in the Gulf.
Looks like the coldest month of January has an average low of 10 Celsius. Given an equivalent standard deviation compared to the average January low for the average coldest January temperature to New Orleans airport (which averages 7.8 Celsius and usually has a -2.2 Celsius coldest temperature), we get exactly 0 Celsius, so 10a.
Granted, this isn't exactly zone 10b. But there's more - being so far out in the Gulf, Breton would have a much lower standard deviation compared to its average temperature than New Orleans (as mentioned at the begnning of the thread).
If we were to assume the difference was similar to that between Florida's geographically similar situation of Miami (20.3 Celsius January average, 5.8 Celsius usual coldest temperature) and Key West (21.4 Celsius January average, 10.1 Celsius usual coldest temperature) for example, we'd get 3.2 Celsius as the usual coldest temperature for Breton, easily 10b. Even assuming that's an overestimate, Breton would only need to have deviations of 1.7 Celsius less than New Orleans to be 10b, which I don't see much (if anything) wrong with because of that mentioned distance in the Gulf.
What do you think about this?
I am really skeptical of that being a 10b climate. Even 0c is hardly a 10A climate , if we are going by the USDA zones standards which are measured in Fareinheight with a 35F or 1.7c cutoff for zone10A.
While that could be a 10a climate, I don't think it is likelyto be 10b, which has a cutoff at 4.4c or 40f. I don't think it makes sense to extrapolate variances from Miami temperatures because S and especially SEFLA's microclimates are overwhelmingly impacted by the direct contact with the gulf stream.
I am having trouble finding the weather station associated with that location . https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/search
If you can find that weather station on the NOAA website we could pull 20 year historical data and run some analysis on annual minimums to see if you are right about this place being 10B
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